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2018/03/18 04:19:47
vdvorn
Blogospherianman
Don't feel stupid. Trust me, we've all been there. It's all a learning experience and you'll continue to build on each step as you go. The reason you're not seeing the same thing is because when you inserted Kontakt, you inserted as a 'Simple Instrument Track'. That way will only show the synth audio track. ( you can right click the synth audio track and click Split Instrument track to see the midi track and synth audio track separately, BUT I don't recommend this because the CC7 will NOT be assigned to volume. And Yes you can assign it by right clicking the volume slider in Kontakt and then sliding the un-hidden midi track volume slider, BUT, doing so will result in the CC7 value of 127 becoming +12db... Not ideal.

Best thing to do is load a new instance of Kontakt and when it asks 'Insert soft synth options', click Midi source, Synth track folder and First synth audio output. This will then create a folder in the Track View that contains the Synth audio track AND the Midi source track and will Automatically assign CC7 to volume with 127 = -6db.
(If it doesn't ask about soft synth options you can change those in the Synth browser next to the +{insert synth} and X{delete synth} there's an icon for 'Insert Synth options' ... it says that when you hover over)

Then try adjusting the Volume on the Midi source track and watch the Kontakt volume slider move.

Let me know how these steps go for you.

ps. before you post, it's a good idea to 'select all' and copy the post, that way if it doesn't post you can paste it back and try again. 😉


Hi, Blogospherianman
unfortunately, I did not mark your second post (I though it was a previous).
I did as you said with the new instance of Kontakt and now the slider is moving. Thanks! I will transfer the data on the new track and see, if the problem remains.
 
So, does it mean, that the problem was in the way of opening a synth track? And how to explain, that another tracks opened as a Single track are working normal?
 
As for the posting, the problem is, that my posts disappear AFTER EDITING, and I have no idea how and why it may happen...
2018/03/18 04:27:59
vdvorn
IT IS JUST TERRIBLE. When I try to edit my post, or write an additional one the older one DISAPPEARS.
 
So, I replied to Blogospherianman that I did what he said, opened a new splitted track and the fader now moves. I will transfer the data and see, if the problem remains.
 
I would like also to say, that this double tracking is very uncomfortable for me, since I do not see any profit, but the number of the tracks are hard to manage...
 
I would be happy, if the problem could be solved without the necessity to open doubled tracks for every Kontakt instrument.
 
2018/03/18 04:37:59
michael diemer
Hmm, my only experience with Kontakt is with Cinematic Strings. The functions I mentioned may be unique to that VSTi. Sorry!
 
On the other hand, those functions may be hidden. You might need to make them visible. You can choose which features to hide or display, and you may have them hidden.
2018/03/18 04:39:12
Kamikaze

2018/03/18 04:43:48
Kamikaze
Side Note: I don't use Instrument Volume (Midi), as a I tend not to use the onboard FX, and use ProChannel. changes in instrument Volume changes the level feeding compressors and distortions  
2018/03/18 04:48:46
Kamikaze
vdvorn
 
I would be happy, if the problem could be solved without the necessity to open doubled tracks for every Kontakt instrument.
 




 
I haven't needed to split tracks, and haven't had your problem. So there should be a cure, rather than a remedy.
 
When I open Kontact  'The click 'Accept standard controllers for Volume and Pan' is defaulted to off. Was to defaulted to off for you before today? (I'm just guessing here)
 
2018/03/18 04:55:50
vdvorn
Kamikaze
 
 
 
I haven't needed to split tracks, and haven't had your problem. So there should be a cure, rather than a remedy.
 
When I open Kontact  'The click 'Accept standard controllers for Volume and Pan' is defaulted to off. Was to defaulted to off for you before today? (I'm just guessing here)
 




It looks like in my Kontakt it is set ON by default. I just opened a new track and it was on...
2018/03/18 04:57:32
michael diemer
Yeah, the basic/advanced tabs are unique to Cinematic Strings, I'm pretty sure. Your problem sounded esactly like mine, so I assumed what worked for me would work for you.
 
Still, it really sounds like something keeps re-setting. I would still put in a CC event for starting volume, CC7=80, 100, or whatever you choose.
2018/03/18 05:09:29
Blogospherianman
Kamikaze
I haven't needed to split tracks, and haven't had your problem. So there should be a cure, rather than a remedy.
  


Just pointing out that in your photo you are already using the Split Synth Audio and Midi tracks separately as apposed to the Simple Instrument track that Vdorn is using.
2018/03/18 05:16:00
Kamikaze
The screen print was to show Vdorn the split track view. Adding to your post above.
 
I do occasionally split tracks, but I mainly use the singe instrument tracks and don't touch midi Volume, and Kontact Player is fine
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