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  • A problem with the volume in Kontakt (p.5)
2018/03/18 21:41:08
michael diemer
Yes, I forgot that, often you need to change the octave designation. Another reason keyswitches are a pain.
You don't need 16 instances of Kontakt. you can have as few as one, and load it with 16 different inst's. I'm using two most of the time, one for regular strings, one for pizzicato. I also use a Garritan, East West and Vienna synth on my projects, plus a few dim pros. None of them have more than a handful of inst's. Some people say you shouldn't overload them, but too many synths can overload your system. You have to figure out what's best for you and your system.
2018/03/18 22:08:08
vdvorn
michael diemer
Yes, I forgot that, often you need to change the octave designation. Another reason keyswitches are a pain.
You don't need 16 instances of Kontakt. you can have as few as one, and load it with 16 different inst's. I'm using two most of the time, one for regular strings, one for pizzicato. I also use a Garritan, East West and Vienna synth on my projects, plus a few dim pros. None of them have more than a handful of inst's. Some people say you shouldn't overload them, but too many synths can overload your system. You have to figure out what's best for you and your system.



My problem is that for some reasons I had about 20 years pause in my DAW recordings, and now I need to work upon the songs, get deeper in my Sonar knowledge and study Melodyne at once. :) I did not expect for Sonar to become so complicated. To investigate Kontakt to load it with many instruments was too much for me... That is why I just opened a new Simple Instrument Track any time, until I got this volume problem.
The good thing is that I probably will revise the whole workflow now to make it more comfortable and flexible...
 
2018/03/19 02:02:21
vdvorn
Unfortunately the problem is not still solved for...
 
I just proved that the track with the changed CC7 volume controller (it is still a Simple Instrument Track) is not available to control from the Console. The volume is set to a certain value and returns to it any time I try to change it while playing back.
 
It is for me completely unacceptable, so I will need to try to search further... Perhaps, switching to the double tracks for the instrument may help, but may be I will find a better solution.
2018/03/19 02:07:31
BRainbow
I'm not sure anyone has suggested this.  Have you gone inoto the "Event List" view for the track to see if there are some midi volume or CC events in there that are screwing you up?
2018/03/19 03:03:11
Blogospherianman
Again, check the bottom of the Piano roll view for that track, in the controller pane. Look at the CC7 data.
2018/03/19 03:53:31
vdvorn
BRainbow
I'm not sure anyone has suggested this.  Have you gone inoto the "Event List" view for the track to see if there are some midi volume or CC events in there that are screwing you up?


Well, I have wrote in my first post that it was the first thing I did... :)
2018/03/19 04:30:14
michael diemer
vdvorn
michael diemer
Yes, I forgot that, often you need to change the octave designation. Another reason keyswitches are a pain.
You don't need 16 instances of Kontakt. you can have as few as one, and load it with 16 different inst's. I'm using two most of the time, one for regular strings, one for pizzicato. I also use a Garritan, East West and Vienna synth on my projects, plus a few dim pros. None of them have more than a handful of inst's. Some people say you shouldn't overload them, but too many synths can overload your system. You have to figure out what's best for you and your system.



My problem is that for some reasons I had about 20 years pause in my DAW recordings, and now I need to work upon the songs, get deeper in my Sonar knowledge and study Melodyne at once. :) I did not expect for Sonar to become so complicated. To investigate Kontakt to load it with many instruments was too much for me... That is why I just opened a new Simple Instrument Track any time, until I got this volume problem.
The good thing is that I probably will revise the whole workflow now to make it more comfortable and flexible...
 


Sounds like a good plan!
2018/03/19 12:31:34
dcumpian
vdvorn
Unfortunately the problem is not still solved for...
 
I just proved that the track with the changed CC7 volume controller (it is still a Simple Instrument Track) is not available to control from the Console. The volume is set to a certain value and returns to it any time I try to change it while playing back.
 
It is for me completely unacceptable, so I will need to try to search further... Perhaps, switching to the double tracks for the instrument may help, but may be I will find a better solution.




In Kontakt, open the "Outputs" pane and adjust the volume there.
 
Dan
 
2018/03/19 13:33:14
vdvorn
dcumpian
 
In Kontakt, open the "Outputs" pane and adjust the volume there.
 
Dan
 




Thanks Dan, it seems to be working as a temporary solution.
2018/03/20 17:27:24
robert_e_bone
Hi - I used to have problems with Kontakt Master Volume settings all the time, and did some online research and found the following, which stopped the Master Volume setting in a Kontakt loaded instrument from acting like it had a mind of its own:
 
1) Open the instance of Kontakt with the instrument giving you a hard time
2) Click on the Wrench icon on the left of the instrument
3) Click on Instrument Options
4) If not already on Controller, click on Controller button
5) Remove the check from the box (option) labeled: "Accept standard controller for Volume and Pan"
6) Click on 'Close' 
7) Click on the Wrench icon again to toggle back to the instrument's normal display panel.
 
I do not recall if I did a Save for the instrument or not, after making the above change, so if the next project you find the problem returning again, then make the above change again, and save the instrument to make it work that way all the time.  I just can't recall one way or the other on that point.
 
ALSO please note, I did the same change for Battery 3, as it too had the same volume issues.
 
I sincerely hope the above helps, 
 
Bob Bone
 
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