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  • Pickup notes and measure zero (p.3)
2014/09/26 19:46:24
Kev999
rogeriodec
Any news for this?



There have been several threads and feature requests about this over the years, but that's as far as it went. My own feature request was a variation as follows:

Keep the existing timeline as it stands, but have an additional customisable timeline.  This second timeline can be divided up as required by the user to represent different sections of the song, e.g. intro, verses, choruses, bridges or whatever.  Each section can be assigned a colour and a starting number which could be 1 or 0 or some offset.  It could also be assigned a name or descriptive piece of text.  When zoomed out the sections of the song would be obvious by the colours.  When zoomed in it would be easy to home in on, for example, the 6th bar of the 2nd chorus.
2014/09/27 03:19:18
DrLumen
kwgm
Hello there Papa,
...
I too am an old-timer, and long ago when I carried music around in a folder, I learned to read charts that were divided into sections back (I won't say how long ago it was, but I will share that it was way before anyone had ever heard of MIDI!) I can still hear our band leader saying: "Now if you'll all turn to letter G in section E..."



 
kwgm, the first midi software I used was called Dr. T's for the Commodore.  It was laid out similar to what you are describing. I could set a midi phrase on the timeline (say a drum measure) and tell it to play it 7 times and then 1 measure drum fill-in once and then on to the next sequence. The could be made a sequence that could also be set to play, say 4 times.  It may sound really strange to the way we currently do things in Sonar but it seemed really intuitive. It also made me realize just how repetitive music actually is. The actual timelines for long songs could be a very small set of display elements.
 
When I moved to cakewalk, the timeline and edit process seemed really cludgy and unnecessary.
 
I too have felt the need for a negative measure. IMO, it is just as easy to start at some other measure and then set and use markers.
2014/09/27 04:27:35
Kev999
I should point out, in case some people haven't noticed, THIS IS AN OLD THREAD.
 
2014/09/27 10:19:07
sock monkey
Very old thread for sure,, but an interesting topic for those who like to re-arrange midi files or there own creations. I often have had to do this with a client sitting patiently waiting for me to add another verse or chorus. The number part never bothered me as I put markers at each part,  but then the fact that the markers don't follow the copy paste does bother me. 
I always leave a blank measure before the count in. The count in will be 1 bar if no lead in and 2 bars if there is a lead in.  
The coloured blocks are cool. That would be nice but I can see it will never happen. 
My guess is very few people would benefit from a negative measure count, so they have never looked into this.  
2014/09/27 11:31:59
bitflipper
This is why the Insert Silence feature exists.
 
The more important question is whatever happened to Honest_Al?
2014/09/29 16:01:45
rogeriodec
I know it's an old thread, but in my case I don't know the solution: 
- I have to sync a video with my music. The video starts with 0 second, but the music starts with a pickup note in a tempo = 80, so the music is starting almost 3 seconds late.
How to solve this?
2014/09/30 13:29:24
stevec
bitflipper
 
The more important question is whatever happened to Honest_Al?




I see a few flashback names on this thread...   Whoa. 
 
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