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2006/08/16 00:13:14
Brett

timidi, got it working now thank you. I'm doing the same as you, the default performance loads and then I select patches from Sonar. Now to get in and explore the sounds!

Brett
2006/08/16 12:32:10
inmazevo
The default Performance thing is a GREAT idea.
That's similar to what I'm doing... I just end up with 32 default Performances (since there are 32 User Performance slots per Sound Set on the XP60)...
Each Performance can have its own EFX/Chorus/Reverb settings, so having 32 of them is great fun.

I also have a bunch of old midi songs on XP60 floppy disks that I'm porting into Sonar, so until I'm extremely well-versed in sysex dumps I'm saving each song's Performance to a User slot, getting the midi into Sonar, and selecting that Performance from Sonar when it plays back.
It seems to be working well, and over time I can continue to take each song's original version and port to virtual instruments, other hardware gear, other Patch selections on the XP, etc.
It's also extremely useful to control the midi part settings on the XP and JV from Sonar's Console... not flipping through menus...

Now, instead of 15 floppy disks full of sequences, I've got one floppy (plus backups of course) full of Sound Sets.

It's still considerably more time consuming than Virtual Instruments, but you save a lot of processing power using some outboard gear.

Take care and have fun,
- zevo
2006/08/17 17:53:05
Sorceress Sarah
I have a Roland XV-5080 and S4PE. Getting them to play nice with each other was a puzzle. Here's my solution:

First, Get the XV editor from Roland's web site. It supports JV and Fantom as well. It's a whole lot easier to set your syntb up the way YOU want to use it with this than from the fron panel.
Get a good .INS file for the beast you own. (The L'ilChips XV-5080 file, um well, it's disappointing. . .)


Next, I set up 17 MIDI tracks in a track folder in Sonar. Tracks 1-16 are assigned to each channel of the XV. The seventeenth track selects the performance.
Then I create four audio tracks and assign to MOTU 828MkII ADAT 1/2, 3/4, 5/6, 7/8.

On the synth, I set the output mode to parallel, and the clock source to R-BUS, since I am using the DIF-AT24 to convert the R-BUS to ADAT, and that connects to the opticals on my MOTU 828mkII. For the "template" performance, I set the output of the solo part to "A" which corresponds to one ADAT stereo channel, the rest to "B", the MFX to "C" and the Rhythm part to "D".

There's a "Gotcha" in there, though. . . The patches frequently can override these settings, which requires a trip into the XV Editor to fix the patch.

It took many hours of probing the cryptic tome that passes for a manual provided by Roland to "grok" the way Roland does things, but once understood, it becomes fairly easy to figure out how to set up SONAR to work with this.

FWIW, the DIF-AT24 was well worth it, since I freed up four inputs on the 828, and I don't convert d/a then back again. Works flawlessly.
2006/08/17 19:56:26
Susan G
Well, welcome!

How the heck are you? It's been a few years!

-Susan
2006/08/17 23:44:37
Middleman
I'm still not getting there.

First, I do have the ability to select from a list of about 32 perf banks and 3 different locations Perf:A, B and User.

I still do not have the ability to assing the various layers(parts) of the performance to the various midi channels. Or am I missing something here, is that even possible.

Once I get a performance assigned on midi channel 1, the rest of my channels do nothing when I try to assign either a patch or another performance to that channel.

Am I thinking wrong here or missing something in the setup. Advice is welcome.

Also, does the ins file supply the names of the parts. Can these be assigned to various channels and should I expect two or 3 sounds to play at once? Just trying to understand the capabilities.....


**********Never mind*************

Turns out my older midi controller only transmits one channel at a time. Time for a new toy!!
2006/08/18 01:56:57
Brett

The Yahoo group for the JV series has Cakewalk ins files for the JV expansion boards.
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Roland-Super-JV/
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Roland-Super-JV/files/Cakewalk/

I haven't checked them out yet.
You probably have to sign up to get them

Brett
2006/08/18 13:21:07
whattarush
HarmonyGardens, Sorry I haven't looked at this thread in a couple of days. I'll post this for you when I get home from work this evening. Don't want to steer you wrong but I can't tell you off the top of my head.
2006/08/18 20:56:36
whattarush

ORIGINAL: harmony gardens


ORIGINAL: whattarush

Try turn off the C.C. switch in "system" mode. I had the same problem with the XP80 and later the JV1080, but turn off this switch corrected this problem for me. Also, make sure the track volumes in SONAR are not set to "0" as this will send midi volume control messages to the JV1080.
HTH!!!


Thanks whattarush. I can't seem to find a C.C. switch in the system menu. Any clues on how to find it?? Thanks




Simple. Just press the "system" button. press the down button until you get to the "receive midi" page, and turn off "c.c". HTH!!!
2006/08/19 16:03:41
Sorceress Sarah

ORIGINAL: Susan G

Well, welcome!

How the heck are you? It's been a few years!

-Susan

Still kickin' & takin'. . . Been raisin' it over at Da Uthuh Playz. . . Catch up with you there. . .
2006/08/20 19:47:28
donald
ORIGINAL: inmazevo
In Sonar:
Now... import the Roland JV1080's Patch, Performance and Rhythm instrument definitions into Sonar via the Assign Instruments dialog and...
set the output channel for the 1080's Rhythm ins to channel 10...
set the output channel for the 1080's Performance ins to channel 1...
and set the rest of the channels to the 1080's Patch ins...
Close the dialog.

Hm...interesting. I have a JV1010 and I've always had all midi channels set to patch ins (apart from channel 10, which is set to rythm ins). Why do you set midi channel 1 to performance?

I assume this is to quickly call up a whole performance in the JV, without having to change every single midichannel in Sonar. Since I have a JV1010 performances is a tricky subject and despite that I've used it a lot over the last 6-7 years I've never been able to programme a performance...and I don't need to. Sonar does it for me these days. Just use track templates instead. Set up your "performance" they way you want it in Sonar and then save it as a track template. The thing you're missing is to be able to change the effects, etc. but I've never really used JV1010's effects anyway.
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