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2014/09/20 21:05:26
Anderton
royarn
Its still the same price on the store that its always been £119 here in the uk for producer.




Actually on this page, it shows £59 for upgrade from X2 Producer to X3 Producer, £79 from any version of Producer, and £239 from any version of Studio. 
2014/09/21 16:26:08
Marcus Curtis
I have been on a steady upgrade diet ever since Sonar 8. X3 is by far the best version to date. I am looking forward to X4. There were some issues with x2 no doubt but all the bug fixes in the new version was not the only reason to update. X3 is so much better in so many ways. I am not going to take the time to list everything, but I am with Bob on this one. The upgrade price is really a bargain. The extra features and the third party software like Melodyne and Addictive Drums really makes this a great deal! 
 
Personally I can't help but wonder what they will improve in X4. In My opinion X3 is a pretty good deal at the normal upgrade price.
2014/09/21 16:45:15
Grem
Also agree about the great deal. It's hard to pass this one up!
2014/09/21 16:45:24
SvenArne
It could well be that Addictive drums for example won't still be included in X4. Who knows? If I was still on X2, I'd be very torn indeed...
2014/09/21 16:55:47
Grem
$99 upgrade from "any" version of Producer!!
2014/09/22 09:03:38
DeeringAmps
I should but out, Bob is right we've drifted off topic; BUT
Cake has it's own "subscription" model, Craig and I have agreed on this elsewhere
(Hope you don't mind me dragging you into this Craig).
FOLLOW THE UPGRADE PATH!
Each version of Sonar has 'matured' and then we've moved on!
I 'engineered' (sorry Dave) a 6 hour session with X1(OS XP) 16 inputs; full kit, 2 guitars, bass, scratch vocal.
Never a glitch! At that point I could have told MS and Cake to take a hike! Run like this forever.
BUT X2, X3, and soon X4 bring even more to the party, it's a no brainier.
You vote we 'fix' ProAudio 9, You will not rest until they do!
Really?
T
2014/09/22 13:42:03
Splat
To clarify, in regards to undo, yes there are two issues documented in the bug thread. X3E is still good product regardless..Cheers..
2014/09/23 06:06:22
mudgel
robert_e_bone
Well, kind of a bummer the thread got pretty much derailed.
 
To recap the thread I started:
 
1.  Sale prices were posted on main Cakewalk page, and posted here for anyone who missed that.
2.  If someone wishes to upgrade to Sonar X3, they will be getting a really stable and solid version.
3.  If someone chooses not to upgrade, that is fine too.
4.  I wish to convey the best of all life has to offer to all here, and anywhere else, for that matter.
5.  Please post elsewhere, if there are points you wish to convey that do not line up with the above 1-4.
 
Thanks, 
 
Bob Bone
 


I have to ask: is this an example of the new forum host moderation? Because this is not your usual style of posting Bob. Especially seeing as Paulo and Craig A. were already engaged in dialog. If anything as an actual Moderator, Craig had the matter well in hand. What a shame, I had such a high hopes for this change. I've read and re-read and the entire thread and can't see it any different sorry. Maybe a lighter touch.
2014/09/23 09:27:45
robert_e_bone
The role of forum host is still being worked out, and I have not posted anything whatsoever in any capacity of a forum host.
 
I only had observed the thread drifting from what I had originally posted as the thread's creator, and had only asked them to continue the drifted discussion elsewhere.  I did so as politely as I could.  
 
You are quite correct that it was a reasonable discussion - no bashing or any of that sort of thing.  It had just taken a simple post about upgrade prices I had happened to spot, and went off into ownership issues, management issues, and particular bug issues, none of which had anything to do with the intent of the thread.
 
Unfortunately, one of the posters took my request as some sort of presumably 'threat of action' kind of thing from me acting in an elevated position of being a forum host.  
 
Again, I had not done so, and to my knowledge nobody in the role of forum host has taken any action in that capacity (it is possible that it has happened in another forum, I usually only really visit this one).
 
In any case, whatever the role of a forum host turns out to be, it is not going to change who I am, and if people actually believe I would consider myself in some lofty position of power - to be abused - then I don't think they know me very well at all.
 
I have always approached my interactions in this forum from a position of trying to help those I can, and learning how to better my own understanding of working with Sonar.  I apologize when I make mistakes, I work hard at offering helpful information, and there is not a day that goes by that I don't learn multiple things from helpful folks here in this forum.
 
I can perfectly understand someone connecting a comment I post to this newly created forum host role. I AM a forum host, and do not yet know how that is all going to function.  I do not know how things will shake out yet, in terms of protocols and guidance, and lots of other aspects of that role, but i DO know that in the discussions that have taken place, great care is being taken to be very careful.
 
I think the role is intended to better the forums, and also intended to help the limited resources of the Cakewalk staff, so that they can focus on more of the business of crafting the products, though they remain in place as administrators/moderators.
 
The role of forum host is brand new, and is a tiny sliver of peripheral things that the moderators do.  There will be some learning, some stumbles, some successes, and it will all smooth out into a complimentary set of people and activities.  It IS meant to help the forum run smoothly.
 
All I can do is give the forum my word that I will continue to do my best to support the folks at Cakewalk, as well as the forum community, to the best of my abilities.
 
Bob Bone
 
2014/09/24 03:11:24
mudgel
Bob.
For me, point 5 was not typical of your posting style and seemed to me to be an expression of authority rather than a polite suggestion or request.

Despite Cakewalks comments that decisions about Forum hosts and their roles has not been concluded the fact remains that various members are now designated as such.

When then I see a post that to me seems atypical of you then it's hard not to draw a conclusion. Especially as when I was following the CH thread on the subject of Forum Hosts, I expressed my support for its success.

According to your explanation you answered my question which is that you were not acting in any moderation role and I accept that. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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