Anderton

rscain
AD2- Really like the variety and sound of it. I wish it used GM mapping but I finally figured out how to use the AD    drum map so I can live with it.

Could you elaborate on this? I haven't been using AD much but want to, so it seems what you've come up with may make my life easier.

When you open AD, the rightmost tab is "beats". On that tab, on the right side, there is a button that opens the mapping window. Here you can select or adapt any of the preset mappings, which include various electronic drumkits and GM. I usually set mine to GM cause it's easiest to play from my keyboard. The best part is all the internal beats automatically adapt so if you drag them onto a midi track they'll look like "regular" GM drumparts.

I know a lot of fellas here go very deep into the technical end of SONAR / X3 ...
I've actually piggybacked on peoples knowledge and learned a lot of cool stuff that I would not have been exposed too.
I get a lot out of hearing how people use the program 
 
 
I love to use X3 as my music teacher and in that role SONAR  fills a very important void in my life ...
 
I've always have  been very exited about using SONAR for learning music and how to play better guitar .
in truth , thats how I use it the most , since I'm not currently studying w anybody and it has been a few years since I have .
 
Some of the obvious features I like to use are things like making groove clips of solos that I want to transcribe / copy and learn …
i love to slow em down …repeat them endlessly in small bite sized phrases …change the pitch and key of them and reverse engineer audio recordings to learn and umm steal  everything I can musically from them ….
 
I also like to use The Matrix view to make interesting grooves to practice and experement over ... 
 
Love to take midi files of Classical Music and learn all the instrument parts on my guitar  ( the ones I can grab) 
 
here's a couple of things that i do I don't hear many people talking about ...
for this example ,
I will take a midi file of Bach ..lets say a two part invention …..now we all have done that right ? 
did you know that the midi transpose function has a secret hidden use ?  
that transpose feature can go modal faster than the roadrunner can out run that poor ole coyote 
I love to right click a midi file and then transpose it diatonically ….
what happens is this , in the case of a Bach two part invention or any midi file for that matter is the composers original mathematical permeations and harmonic structure remains intact , but it key center is now shifted 
By transposing diatonically you can play and audition songs in all the diationic modes …
now with Bach I find it amazing to hear his music played from a totally different modal refrence point than his original ..
Each diatonic step the song is played in reveals a totaly different musical flavor and his genius is ever revealed in a greater light     
 
I'm also very interested in the audio to midi conversion , I have been doing a couple of experiments  over here on my own on how to use it for learning how to play better guitar ...
I used to have a very good friend named Joe who passed on a number of years ago ,  my friend / mentor recorded an album called Virtuoso among many others ….
I used to hang out with him all the time and watch his fingers like a hawk ….
he used to love getting me all moist and tender from watching him play , then he would hand me the guitar , light a cigar ,  look me dead in the eye , cock his head back , bat his eyelashes like Mae West and say play like me  
he used to love messing w me and he had a great sense of humor...
I took his version of All The Things You Are from The first Virtuoso album and used it as a experiment to hear how well the audio to midi conversion works in X3...
I first imported the wave file , slowed it down just a little bit , pulled up the Dimension Pro in the synth rack , pulled up a guitar patch ...
then I slid the audio track over to the Dim Pro track and let it convert ….
you know it didn't grab everything just right , but it sure grabbed a lot of the single note solos pretty close ...
had to do a lot of editing in the piano roll …it sure beats looking at a book ... 
Yeah I'm gonna be looking into using this feature more often ...
 
that's what i got for now . have a good one , 
 
Kenny

I wish I had been able to sit across from a jazz great like Joe Pass!
Must have been very inspiring.

Anderton

rscain
AD2- Really like the variety and sound of it. I wish it used GM mapping but I finally figured out how to use the AD    drum map so I can live with it.

Could you elaborate on this? I haven't been using AD much but want to, so it seems what you've come up with may make my life easier.

Here you go Craig....
https://www.cakewalk.com/...ve-Drums-2-in-SONAR-X3

I didn't know those existed either, thanks for that!
 
Although to be honest the fact that it takes 15 steps to even become available in Sonar is pretty bad. It should be part of the Producer installation, or of the AD(2) installation.

Sanderxpander
I didn't know those existed either, thanks for that!
 
Although to be honest the fact that it takes 15 steps to even become available in Sonar is pretty bad. It should be part of the Producer installation, or of the AD(2) installation.

+1

Sanderxpander
I wish I had been able to sit across from a jazz great like Joe Pass!
Must have been very inspiring.

 
Yes , Joe was a great guy in real life  he has definitly left a life long inspiring impression on me ...
When he played Carnegie Hall with Ella Fitzgerald and Oscar Peterson  he brought me backstage to meet Ella .
Ella was kind of frail and she was sitting on a stool . When Joe said to her I want you to meet K…y Ella got up even though she could hardly walk …I said no you don't have to get up ..she got up anyway and gave me one big hug ...
 
my apologies  if I'm coming off like I'm doing a humble brag …that is not my intent …..
 
anyway, these photos have been posted on this site before ….

on the bottom pic to the right Joe showed up to the gig with cello strings on his guitar ,  he handed me his guitar and said hey my guitar don't feel right can you check it out for me ? after playing it I was like what the heck ?… 
he said I don't know if I can go on stage and play tonight , you got to go out there K..y and do the gig for me 
I said no way …I'm too young to die ..they don't want to hear me they want to hear you ...
I wound up restringing his guitar for him with guitar strings just in the nick of time …whew….
 
 
Kenny
 

kennywtelejazz
my apologies  if I'm coming off like I'm doing a humble brag …that is not my intent …..

Doesn't come off that way at all. I think people appreciate insights into what makes "stars" real people.
 
BTW about audio-to-MIDI conversion...I've been doing it with Gibson's FBX, which has hex pickups so each string goes into its own track. This really helps with reliability.

Thanks for sharing your experience, Kenny! Very cool. I've only ever played with some local/national "heroes". Though I did get to shake Brad Mehldau's hand (he's like half Dutch I guess, through his marriage), and got some lessons from Tom Salisbury (who lives in Holland). The times we had masterclasses from the Screaming Headless Torsos and from Mike Stern in school were super inspiring! Can't imagine what it'd be like to just jam and have a beer with one of those guys!

rscain
 
Here you go Craig....
https://www.cakewalk.com/...ve-Drums-2-in-SONAR-X3

Thank you!! That will indeed be very helpful.