Hi I am still quite new to Sonar and I want to use my TC Helicon voicelive touch as an external effect for harmony.

 

 

Th TC manual says I need to do the following

Configure an aux send in your DAW to send the vocal track via USB to

VoiceLive Touch’s left input and the guitar track to the right.
 
I am unsure where to do this, if i click on the external effect in the FX bin there are no options there.
 
Could anyone pleae help with this
 
Thank you

Right click in an audio track fx bin and select "external insert". That should insert an entry in the fx bin and open the plugin window which gives you places to insert the send/return stuff plus allow you to adjust things to take account of any delay in the audio caused by the time taken to send it round the external routing.

If you need to send the output of two audio tracks to the same effect then capture the output in either (or a third) I'd suggest using two mono tracks a sources, pan one hard right and the other hard left, and set the external insert output of each to the fx unit's USB. Set the returns to whichever audio port the fx unit sends it's output to.

You can also set the returns in the tracks to "none" and use a fresh audio track to record the output of the fx unit should you need to (assuming there's nothing in the fx unit's setup to prevent this).

Thanks for your reply when I follow your instructions and open the external effects In the send box all i have listed is my sound card not the TC helicon am I missing something else here The TC is listed as an output and input device in preferences in Sonar

The problem could be that you've got more than one audio interface to deal with here.

I'm not familiar with the effect in question, but looking at TC-Helicon's website the USB out streams audio, yes?

If so then (assuming you're using ASIO drivers), as far as I know you can only use one audio interface in Sonar (I think that's because of the nature of ASIO itself - if I'm wrong someone will be along to correct me no doubt :-) ) . To be on the safe side, you have activated the TC as an audio device in perferences? If not and activating it does the trick, then ignore the above.
 
I've no experience with using multiple audio devices at the same time (never had a need to) but I think using WDM drivers may get you round this (at the cost of some latency and time offset discrepancies between the two devices that may mean doing a bit of editting of the audio afterwards). Worth a try anyway perhaps.
 
Can you hook up your soundcards ins/outs and use the audio inputs/outputs on the fx unit that way? Simplest option. Or disable the sound card in Sonar, enable the TC, use it for the job in hand then revert tou your usual interface?

Sonar's External Effects use the audio output of external gear. This is analog, ADAT and S/PDIF.
The TC  helicon has to be connected to your sound. In other words, Sonar talks to the TC Helicon thru your sound card. To use MIDI this device has to function as a VST.
So, does this device has its own sound driver, or, does it have its own setup VST .dll?

OK I have made a mistake here. In the preferences in Sonar the TC is showing as a Midi device not an audio device. It connects to the PC via USB looking on the TC disk there are no drivers that get installed.

So I guess the USB Imput is just for MIDI and Firmware updates which dosent help a lot

I have just had a good look at my TC Manual and there is a bit of Config to do in the USB menu. I will have a go at that and update what happens. Thanks for the advice so far guys It is really appreciated

If you want ot use the external insert feature then you're talking about passing some audio out of SONAR via your sound cards analog outputs into an external devices ananlog inputs, processing it and then returning it to SONAR via your Audio cards inputs.

this means that your audio card needs to have the necessary inputs and outputs to do that as well as monitor the sounds via another pair of outputs.

As your device is connected via USB it is in fact another Audio card inwhich case its inuts and outputs should be available in SONAR's IO without resorting to external Insert features.

I have a Digitech Vocalist EX Workstation, but I use it through an external mixer. I send MIDI to it from the MIDI interface and that tells the Vocalist EX what harmony notes to sing with my vocal input through the microphone. I connect the outputs of the vocalist to the Aux send and receive on the mixer and the output of the mixer to the inputs on my soundcard. 

Ok Thank you guys for all your input. I have Found that setting My TC Voicelive to USB insert allows me to USE WDM/KS drivers Ihave tried ASIO4all but that does not work.

OK so using the WDM drivers I am supposed to do this
VoiceLive Touch’s left input and the guitar track to the right.

Doing that I can use external insert for the vocal track and choose the TC but when  try to do that for the audio guitar track I laid down to control the Harmonies in the external insert there is NO TC option to choose. I am new to this and very confused bur I guess it is a learning curve.

If this does not work is there a way in sonar to send a midi track to control the harmony