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2014/09/15 10:12:11
realex
Hi,
I upgraded my system to 64 bit (Win 7, from W7 32 bit) and installed the 64 bit version of Sonar X3 Studio.  As I then found out, NONE of my 32 bit DXi plugins would work.
 
Sob.
 
So, I dutifully bought Waves NPP Essentials, and they show up in the browser under VST 3 effects.  They also show up in the plug in manager, so do the CW midi effects, as well as various CW and Sonitus DXi effects.
 
But when I highlight an audio clip and go to Process - Apply Effects, both Audio and Midi effects are grayed out!
 
Not happy.  Any insight would be extremely appreciated.
 
- Russ
2014/09/15 10:16:27
Anderton
All but a few DXi effects that have shipped with Sonar over the years work in Sonar. So do the Sony DXi effects that aren't locked to their programs.
 
Did you do the reset and rescan required when upgrading to X3?
 
Are all the appropriate folders witn plug-ins being scanned by Sonar?
2014/09/15 10:20:45
Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
realex
Hi,
I upgraded my system to 64 bit (Win 7, from W7 32 bit) and installed the 64 bit version of Sonar X3 Studio.  As I then found out, NONE of my 32 bit DXi plugins would work.

Sob.

So, I dutifully bought Waves NPP Essentials, and they show up in the browser under VST 3 effects.  They also show up in the plug in manager, so do the CW midi effects, as well as various CW and Sonitus DXi effects.

But when I highlight an audio clip and go to Process - Apply Effects, both Audio and Midi effects are grayed out!

Not happy.  Any insight would be extremely appreciated.

- Russ



Try right-clicking on the actual audio clip and go to Process Effect or Insert Effect. This will list all your available plugins that are available for clip-based processing. 
 
2014/09/15 10:26:40
realex
Thanks for the reply.  Yes, right clicking allows me to insert the effect.  And everything is listed in the Plugins Manager. 
 
All the effects I have listed are compatible with the 64 bit version of X3 (at least, now they are).  It doesn't list the non-compatible ones. 
 
So the question is - why is the Audio and Midi effects grayed out in the Process menu?  Sometimes I like to just process it, not have it as an inserted effect.
 
I appreciate your quick response, by the way.
 
- Russ
2014/09/15 10:26:44
scook
A 32 to 64bit bridge for DX plug-ins does not exist. Some have had success by wrapping 32bit DX plug-in with a DX-to-VST wrapper and loading them with BitBridge or jBridge. Not worth the effect, IMO. While transitioning from 32 to 64bit consider installing both 32 and 64bit SONAR.
 
If the effects are not in the FX bin try right-clicking on the clip and use "Process - Apply Effects" from the context menu.
 
Edit: Dan got you fixed up while I was composing my reply.
2014/09/15 10:28:29
Anderton
Actually I'm not sure I understand the problem. Are the effects that you want to apply in the effects bin? You can't use the Process > Apply Effects option on effects (other than the ProChannel effects) without an effect in the effects bin. If the effect is inserted in the clip, you need to bounce to clip.
2014/09/15 10:35:04
Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
realex
So the question is - why is the Audio and Midi effects grayed out in the Process menu?  Sometimes I like to just process it, not have it as an inserted effect.
 



The reason that menu option is greyed out is probably because you have another track selected in your Track View. Try clicking on the Audio Track's # next to the little icon on the actual Track. That number will illuminate blue. If you have any effects in that Track's Audio Effects Bin then the menu option Process > Apply Effect > Audio Effects or MIDI Effects should be available.
 
Check your Track Manager (Shortcut - H) and make sure you don't have another track accidentally selected or something like that. 
 
All else fails try selecting the Freeze button on your track. That will render it with the effects. Bounce to Tracks is also an option.
-DG
 
 
 
2014/09/15 10:35:28
scook
realex
So the question is - why is the Audio and Midi effects grayed out in the Process menu?  Sometimes I like to just process it, not have it as an inserted effect.

I believe in this case there is nothing to process. The option from the main menu only applies effects already in the FX bin. The context menu processes effects without adding them to the FX bin.
2014/09/15 10:39:43
scook
dueling with Dan 
2014/09/15 10:49:54
realex
Thanks for the replies.  I see that I misunderstood how that menu item works, it's different than in previous version.  So you have to have an effect in the bin before it will list anything, and the "right" way is to choose an effect from the browser or right clicking.
 
Works now, so thanks to all!
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