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2016/10/29 14:43:49
azslow3
Good!
Do some buttons except transport work for you, like bank switching etc?
2016/10/29 18:52:34
brands
Today I've worked using every fader, knob and button of the Motor and all it's ok... In summary, you must first update the firmware and then use your two file... :-)
2016/10/29 22:03:04
BobF
This is good to hear.  I guess I can add the MOTOR61 to my list of candidates.
2016/10/29 22:51:15
tenfoot
BobF
This is good to hear.  I guess I can add the MOTOR61 to my list of candidates.



+1. I notice on their website Behringer have presets and guides for Live, Reaper, Logic and Bitwig, but not Sonar. You don't see that often. 
 
Sonar seems to be the kid in the schoolyard that no one wants to play with. Perhaps hardware manufacturers believe that Sonar users don't have wallets!
2016/10/30 06:33:25
brands
I work with Protools 12.5, Logic Pro X 10.2, Cubase 8.5 and Sonar Platinum...... I love Sonar Platinum because in my opinion it's a DAW done for musician by musician, and a musician does not have time to waste with an application but only with his creativity...... I would really like sonar that would offer a minimum of the potential of Sibelius on the musical notation, but you can not have everything in life, is not it ?!
2016/10/31 00:10:15
yummay
That is good news.
 
I too have bought a MOTOR keyboard (the 49 in my case) and I have installed Azslow's moded dlls.
 
For me, faders (track volume) and rotary encoders (Pan pots) were assigned correctly on first attempt.
 
BUT... I have not yet been able to switch fader banks (so I guess it'll be the same with rotary banks)
 
Firmware here is 1.074... as far as I know I should be up to date.
 
Have you done anything specific on your end to be able to switch fader / encoder banks?
 
Regards.
2016/10/31 00:42:52
yummay
Okay... just found out something weird
 
looks like the "default" assignment of the four FADER BANKS butons and the four ENCODER BANKS buttons are kind of polarized.  When powering up the unit, the FADER BANK button marked "1-8" lights up. ENCODER BANKS have none of its 4 buttons "lighted" (which I thought it would) ... the PAD BANK button marked "1-8" also is lighted up.
 
Now for the strange part... It is my understanding that we should have at list one button selected in all of those 3 sections, right? Does not seem to be the case right now. The MOTOR only accepts ONE "button selection" for both the FADER and ENCODER banks sections!
 
When changing fader banks, nothing seems to  change for faders, BUT the leds around the encoders are changing. AND... it is when I am pressing the ENCODER banks buttons "17-24" and "25-32" buttons that I can finally switch between banks of 8 tracks within SONAR!! ("17-24" looks like the "previous 8 tracks" button and the "25-32" one seems to be selecting the next bank of 8 tracks in a Sonar Project...)
 
EDITED: Just doubled check the docs again and it seems like the Correct MC control mode layout for this unit... I somehow overlooked this information. 
 
Is the unit behaving like mine on your end?
 
2018/03/13 04:16:03
Hotice226
azslow3
Thanks Ken
But for "Mackie Compatible" devices I recommend other solution:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3449057
In that thread I explain why. I mean AZCtrl also will work, but moded original plug-in is mode "standard" (also open source, can be significant for some users).
 

 
Hi all,
 
I followed the steps but not sure what I'm still missing. Motor61 isn't responding to Sonar for me. I don't know what I'm missing, but I don't even see the keyboard pop up under the Controller/Surface area like it show in the YouTube instructional video. I've selected the MIDI devices in the input/output sections (MOTOR61 Keyboard and MIDIOUT2 MOTOR61 Keyboar). I've tried every configuration for those ports and applying the changes. The only response I get is if I choose the same "device" for the input and output port (MOTOR61 Keyboard or the other). And the response I get is just a signal flicker on channel one showing that it's getting signal. It doesn't matter if I'm pressing keys, transport controls, drum pads, etc.
 
Could someone walk a noob like me through the process of completely setting it up properly?
 
2018/03/13 09:36:35
chuckebaby
Hotice226
azslow3
Thanks Ken
But for "Mackie Compatible" devices I recommend other solution:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3449057
In that thread I explain why. I mean AZCtrl also will work, but moded original plug-in is mode "standard" (also open source, can be significant for some users).
 

 
I don't even see the keyboard pop up under the Controller/Surface area like it show in the YouTube instructional video.
 



That's because its not there.
Instead you will need to select "Mackie Control" from the Control/Surface dialog menu.
2018/03/13 10:48:25
Steev
Hotice226
 
 
 
Hi all,
 
I followed the steps but not sure what I'm still missing. Motor61 isn't responding to Sonar for me. I don't know what I'm missing, but I don't even see the keyboard pop up under the Controller/Surface area like it show in the YouTube instructional video. I've selected the MIDI devices in the input/output sections (MOTOR61 Keyboard and MIDIOUT2 MOTOR61 Keyboar). I've tried every configuration for those ports and applying the changes. The only response I get is if I choose the same "device" for the input and output port (MOTOR61 Keyboard or the other). And the response I get is just a signal flicker on channel one showing that it's getting signal. It doesn't matter if I'm pressing keys, transport controls, drum pads, etc.
 
Could someone walk a noob like me through the process of completely setting it up properly?
 




Ah, I seen this before. When you select MIDI I/O your instructing the Motor 61 receive/transmit MIDI thru the 5 pin MIDI ports, and NOT communicating or sending MIDI thru USB.
 That is how you would setup the Motor 61 to be used to control a hardware synth or module, not a DAW or softsynths.
 
Make sure on setup that you select "USB" as I/O on the Motor 61 and standard "MC" (Mackie Control) on the Motor 61 itself, or Sonar won't see it and recognize it as a Mackie DAW controller. The Mackie Control panel window is built into SONAR, not part the Motor 61 drivers.
 The Keyboard section will still work as any generic MIDI keyboard, it'll just communicate thru USB.
 And the MIDI ports on the Motor 61 can than be used as an additional MIDI interface for another device or synth.
 In the instruction manual, as limited as it is, I believe there is a way to hold down a button while turning it on to get to the configuration/choice menu for this and things like checking and flashing your firmware version.
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