Mystic38
I checked, its not April 1st, therefore this is a ridiculous thread.
 

Maybe true...assuming that everybody knows what MIDI is.  They all do, don't they? 

WallyG
 
I'm both an audio and a heavy MIDI guy. I switched to Studio One when Sonar development bit the dust. I personally find Studio One's MIDI superior to Sonar. I've heard people bash Studio One's MIDI capabilities, but when I posted "WHY" on the SO site, no one could give specifics. Plenty of SO users love it, but NO specifics. SYSEDIT? Don't use it.
 
What in your opinion does SO miss some advanced MIDI editing capabilities?
 
Thanks,
 
Walt

For one, S1 doesn't support instrument files/definitions.  There were several threads about the issues with S1 Midi in December.  I tested both S1 and Cubase last December after the Sonar fiasco, and I chose Cubase based on its extensive Midi features. I haven't really looked back.  Even as a newcomer hobbyist, I find the Midi in Cubase far better overall than either Sonar or especially S1.  Different people have different needs though.

This is a free plugin from Cockos.  Easily installs and operates within Studio One.  Scroll right to the bottom for Rea Control Midi
 
https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/
 
This handles auditioning and loading of synth banks.  Instrument like definitions can be set up in a very similar way through this.  With a hardware midi interface this plugin can send to the same midi port as does Studio One thus allowing this plugin to also communicate with your synth at the same time. Sysex included.
 
There is another Rea plug that allows you to connect a second computer to your setup, network it to your main machine and this plug allows you to send audio and midi between the two computers, both directions.
 
If anyone is using Synth 1 as a virtual instrument, an amazing free librarian has been written for it and it all runs as a plugin like this. Over 15,000 patches are included too.  The ultimate instrument definition setup. You can find and load any sound.
 
Apart from that though, midi features from many DAW's will most likely get you covered and producing music and Studio One is no slouch in that area either.  Yes Cubase is very deep and for example I can see why someone like Hans Zimmer who has a monstrous hardware synth setup would find Cubase very useful. 
 

FAQ Reaper, you are on the wrong wave length. We are CAKEWALK!  And that's all we need for a Reason.
 
BTW, you and rewire Reason to SONAR, and good things happen. 

I mostly use Notion 6 score editor for writing midi, I then import the midi into sonar for further refinement. Writing music with silly coloured blobs pails in comparison to writing with proper music notation.

You can prise Midi only from my cold, dead fingers

Ahhhhh MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BenMMusTech
I mostly use Notion 6 score editor for writing midi, I then import the midi into sonar for further refinement. Writing music with silly coloured blobs pails in comparison to writing with proper music notation.

The first time I opened Notion I wondered where the MIDI editor with the silly colored blobs was located.  
 
Still looking...
 
At least it does export MIDI...

Mystic38
I checked, its not April 1st, therefore this is a ridiculous thread.
 
 

Well, possibily. However, for some time I've heard nothing good about midi and Sonar, only bad. From almost every aspect, it cops a bagging. So, I'm relieved that a lot of people take exception to the possibility of it taking a further back seat, and surprised that many people are putting Sonar at near the top of the heap as far as midi control goes now, which is not surprising since this is the heritage of Cakewalk.
 
So I thank all for the input. I use midi, understand it mostly, but certainly am not a power user. I've learnt heaps from this thread alone, and hopefully others like me. Someone stated elsewhere about things being back to normal, and this thread being an argument. Well, I see it as something far from that.
 
I really wanted to know whether the main users of Sonar want the new owners to push the boundaries of midi within their new platform, to take it to the forefront of DAWS. Do that, and maybe this DAW can finally make it to the 'pro' world, where it currently isn't. It needs an area to shine. This thread may help in highlighting just that.
 
All the best.
 
 

Most software support forums contain lots of posts with complaints about the software.

People generally don’t bother saying “this is good, I’m happy”. People mostly find forums when looking for answers to problems and post about the problems.

I think Sonar has always handled MIDI pretty well. 12-bit NRPNs are handled seamlessly, the piano roll editor is what I expect one to be and so on.

Compared to Logic Pro, which I’ve been using for a while, Sonar has the MIDI edge in quite a few ways. A combination of the strong points of both and the weaker points of neither would be good. Something like Logic’s MIDI environment combined with Sonar’s ease of handling multiple input and output ports, 12-bit MIDI and with Live’s ability to select exactly which ports get sent clock for example.

But definitely without Logic’s requirement that for it to be recordable in the sequencer all MIDI gets summed together first and the only separation after that is by channel. Makes dealing with hardware that’s hard coded to work on a specific channel or a hardware sequencer and synth that need to be on the same channel way more difficult than it needs to be. Sonar can handle that sort if thing without a problem.