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  • [SOLVED] Sonar not starting anymore?! (Windows 10)
2018/03/04 08:22:44
MoreKoo
HELP! All the sudden Sonar Platinum is not starting anymore in my Windows 10 desktop. When I double click the Sonar icon, the SONAR PLATINUM splash image pops up but then disappears in couple of seconds. SONARPLT.exe is shown in the Task manager but then it just goes away. No error messages, nothing.
 
I have also Sonar X2 and it does the same. Though it shows that it's going through the VST folders, but then it quits just like Platinum.
 
I have tried the usual: renamed VST folders, tried to start with SHIFT on, tried to run as Administrator, disabled all the extra audio interfaces. Same issue.
 
Does anyone have any other tips? Is there a log file that could give a hint what is going on?
 
I have the latest Windows 10 Pro (version 1709, OS Build 16299.248).
2018/03/04 08:35:58
dappa1
Maybe you need to go to Command Centre and see if you can reinstall from there.
2018/03/04 10:03:43
promidi
Maybe an issue with your audio interface (Since Sonar X2 is doing the same thing). 

Did Windows, by chance, do a recent update perhaps. 

What I would try is head to the website of the manufacture of your audio interface, download and install the latest drivers and then reboot.
2018/03/04 11:24:05
pwalpwal
have you checked windows event log?
2018/03/04 12:30:15
chuckebaby
I wouldn't have renamed any folders. its just another headache to solve.
Hold down the SHIFT key while opening Sonar. See if that will at least get it to open. If it does, open a project with no plug ins. If that works, its probably a plug in issue.
2018/03/04 18:44:27
MoreKoo
Thanks for the tips! @chuckebaby I did try the SHIFT-trick but same result. It won't open.
 
The audio interface may be related. I have an old AudioPhile 2496 card, which don't have native Windows 10 drivers. But it has been working great so far with Win7 drivers - and the other audio SW still seem to work just fine with it.
 
I'll need to check the event log. Then maybe reinstall. Does anyone know is there a way to reinstall the Sonar core only?
2018/03/04 20:04:23
davehorch
Did it work before with WIN-10 and now suddenly fails?  If so, try System Restore and go back a few weeks in time?
 
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2018/03/05 00:52:34
DeBro
I had this happened to me when I installed the recent Windows 10 Fall Creators Update. It turned out to be the Yamaha/Steinberg audio driver for my Yamaha keyboard which was initiated in Sonar preferences needed to be re-installed. I did that and all was well.
2018/03/05 11:31:23
Steev
 Ah the old M-Audio PCI cards, loved them back in the day, but there is absolutely NO MORE DRIVER SUPPORT. There hasn't been for maybe 10 years now.
 Most likely cause considering both versions of SONAR fail on startup, but I wouldn't completely rule out old graphics card drivers either.
 I'd open Device Manager and manually do and On Line check search for driver updates. Even if Windows can find any and you get the popup notice that you are running the latest drivers versions that should be enough digital signage.
 Sometimes, just like M-Audio did, actually I believe you'll need to search the AVID driver support page for the older M-Audio PCI card drivers and older USB devices.
 But many vendors move old driver installers into a "Legacy" folder on their website so Windows searches for the wrong address.
 In which case you'll need to identify components and manually search for them yourself.
 
 Keeping older computers running is very much on par with keeping old cars running, and after a period of time it's no longer worth the time and effort looking for parts and solutions that are simply no longer available.
 I think of my old Delta 1010's very fondly like they were my old 1965 Pontiac GTO that could light up the tires for 1/2 a block. Actually I would have been very happy if that GTO lasted half as long as the Delta 1010's did, and very disappointed if my Mustang, which is considerably FASTER, more reliable, and more FUN than a GTO on 10x less gas doesn't last 5x longer.
 I think about Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 Gen 2 more as something  like, ummm, well, I guess I don't think of it other then being a great sounding rock solid audio interface that shall stay that way for many years to come without giving it much thought. Other than maybe swapping out the aging Octapre MKII for a new Clarett OctaPre with built in compressors and "Air" switchable to Focusrite's legendary ISA preamps, could be nice for stuff like capturing killa chest thumping drums all at once very much like Rupert Neve intended.
 
Ain't new technology grand?? Oh HAIL YEAH IT IS, but you'll never know how much until you at least try to keep up, and the longer you wait the more you fall back, and the more expensive it gets just to stay in one place.
 
 Yes you can re install the SONAR core directly from Command Center. 
 But uninstalling SONAR first than reinstalling fresh is usually the quickest and easiest way of solving the many things that can cause these and a plethora of other problems.
 I've never heard of any plugins crashing SONAR upon startup. SONAR doesn't even try to connect to any plugins until you open a project whether you have it set to auto scan or not.
 
 Now that you renamed your plugin folders I would highly recommend a Windows Registry clean up and get rid of all the extra dead end search paths.
It's a very good practice to routinely do this anyway to keep your system running optimally fast and smoothly.
 
2018/03/05 15:10:07
MoreKoo
Wohoo!
Clean install did the trick (as instructed in Cakewalk knowledge base).
 
I should have tried it in the first place. There must have been some Windows update in the background, or something, that broke Sonar configuration. All good now :)
 
Thanks everyone for the help, great community here!
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