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2018/03/01 12:10:05
Phoen1xPJ
I have occasional catastrophic crashes of SPlat, once in awhile blue screen. I have noted this happening during intensive use of Melodyne. Going from clip to clip I'll open one and *crash!* Also crash rarely opening VST's (did once on Addictive Drummer.) What have been your crash experiences? MOST importantly, will BandLab address this behavior? Meng?
 
BTW: I always reboot after a crash to clear things out.
2018/03/01 13:24:59
sharke
Yep lots of people have seen Melodyne related crashes. I think it's problems with the ARA implementation. Personally I've had projects that have become very unstable to the point of crashing all the time, especially when doing things like inserting or deleting time, and things became better once I deleted all Melodyne clips (or bounced them).
2018/03/01 14:18:08
Zargg
Hi. As James, I always bounce down Melodyne clips when finished editing.
Blue screen however is often HW related.
Have you done any tests to check that you don't have a HW problem? Hard-drive, RAM etc.
All the best.
2018/03/01 15:25:19
Phoen1xPJ
Hardware seems OK, Zargg. I always render Melodyne clips when I'm done tinkerin', Sharke.
2018/03/01 15:56:54
chuckebaby
I know you probably don't want to hear it but..
I would look no further than your "Echo Layla24 " as the root of your problem.
PCI soundcards began to fade out almost 7 years ago.
 
A good read:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Is-it-time-to-give-up-on-the-Echo-Layla-2496-m2919657.aspx
 
Melodyne has been solid here. I don't even think I've ever had a Melodyne related crash, but I always render a clip as soon as im done editing it in Melodyne.
 
There is a bug however, when using Region FX and the transport is rolling that is driving me bananas.
Seriously though, obsolete soundcard, bluescreen, crashes = try a different soundcard.
Heck even do a small test, remove the soundcard and use MME or WASAPI and see if Melodyne crashes.
Sonar uses resources for Melodyne.
2018/03/01 16:26:01
Phoen1xPJ
chuckebaby
I know you probably don't want to hear it but..
I would look no further than your "Echo Layla24 " as the root of your problem.
PCI soundcards began to fade out almost 7 years ago.
 
A good read:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Is-it-time-to-give-up-on-the-Echo-Layla-2496-m2919657.aspx
 
Melodyne has been solid here. I don't even think I've ever had a Melodyne related crash, but I always render a clip as soon as im done editing it in Melodyne.
 
There is a bug however, when using Region FX and the transport is rolling that is driving me bananas.
Seriously though, obsolete soundcard, bluescreen, crashes = try a different soundcard.
Heck even do a small test, remove the soundcard and use MME or WASAPI and see if Melodyne crashes.
Sonar uses resources for Melodyne.

 
Wowsers, Chuckebaby! That was quite a thread on the Layla... Beepster wrote:
 
"There are still MOBOs on the market with PCI but you have to make sure that the legacy PCI slot is Native not Bridged support otherwise the data is being handled by the PCIe chipset which can choke things up... which is why I ended up buying a new interface."
 
That could be the issue! How do I check if I have Native or Bridged PCI?
 
Anyhoo... the Layla IS a bit long in the tooth. I don't want USB because I can only get 2 X 4. Layla is 8 X 8 and I need to match that. That leaves me Firewire or Thunderbolt... but I'd need to get a card for either. PCIe? THEN I'd need to find an interface I can afford, preferably used. <sigh>
 
ALL suggestions welcome!
 
2018/03/01 16:54:04
Zargg
RME, Motu, Focusrite, Presonus (and probably several more) can give you that over USB.
I've got a RME Ucx that I've had for 2 years (in a few months9 and can recommend it with all my heart.
I replaced an Echo AudioFire 8 with the RME. The Echo was good, but the RME is excellent.
Low RTL, super stable drivers, and great legacy support.
 
 
2018/03/01 16:55:28
Zargg
To add. I can record with 64 samples buffer, giving me approx 3-4 ms RTL (Round Trip Latency).
 
2018/03/01 17:21:24
Phoen1xPJ
Hey Zargg, I just can't afford an RME... too pricey. Yes, I see I was totally wrong about USB, I can do 8 X 8. I've looked at these so far: 
 
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Focusrite/18i20-Audio-Interface-114015517.gc 
 
https://www.amazon.com/Tascam-US-16X08-channel-Audio-Interface/dp/B00MIXF200/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1519923140&sr=8-8&keywords=used+audio+interface
 
I know the Focusrite is good, what about the Tascam? Thoughts?
 
Still looking...
 
2018/03/01 17:44:09
Cactus Music
I use a Tascam us1641  which they updated the drivers for in 2014 and it performs equally as well as my Focusrite 6i6. No difference. I open projects on the 2 systems daily and the projects work without any hiccups, all outputs remain the same because both are identical in that regard. The newer Tascams are the best bang for the buck if you need channel count. 
If RTL is an issue for you as in using Guitar sims you would need to upgrade to a RME. 
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