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  • MIDI Files Location?
2018/02/01 12:41:22
JohnEgan
Good Day, quick question 
Just wondering, my project audio files are stored in Audio folder, where are my MIDI project files stored? 
Cheers
2018/02/01 13:09:45
bluzdog
I was wondering the same thing yesterday. I ended up dragging them from the project to my desktop so I could get to work. I'm still curious though.
 
Rocky 
2018/02/01 13:47:48
KPerry
They are embedded in the cwp file.
2018/02/01 15:15:11
JohnEgan
KPerry
They are embedded in the cwp file.

Ok thanks so if Sonar ever cant be activated I would probably lose all my midi recordings?
2018/02/01 17:01:04
JohnEgan
I guess also a good reason to bounce VI midi tracks to an audio track. 
2018/02/01 17:11:54
stratman70
I always save a midi file copy of a project in the same project folder as my audio files. What I mean is I start my project with midi drums. I save that to my audio drive (second internal drive) in a folder named for the Project, like a song a i wrote called Every Bit of me.As a Midi 1 (multiple track) midi file. Then i save a copy as a CWP (normal which then creates the folder for my audio and a cwp copy of the midi file in my Every Bit of Me project folder. I do this so I always have a clean midi file of the project before I start adding soft synths, etc.
I am all about midi and soft synths except for all guitars and all vocals.
 
Guess it depends how you work.
2018/02/01 17:36:25
wst3
Even before the current nightmare I was always a little OCD about backing up my work.

In addition to the audio files that Sonar saves for me I would export all the MIDI tracks to the same folder.

I also rendered any VI tracks, and all effects to BWF audio files.

And I save all my presets to the project folder as well.

That last bit has caused me some agita - within the project I'm fine, but sometimes it takes some sleuthing to find a preset that I particularly liked. There is probably no perfect solution, but this works. For me<G>!
2018/02/01 19:06:37
chuckebaby
I typically Drag and Drop my finished (sometimes even partial = verse, bridge, chorus) midi files to the browser for back up because if a Cakewalk project becomes corrupt, its all over. no way to recover them.
 
I also bounce down my midi tracks(or freeze them to audio for Drag and Drop) just in case because years from now, I my new DAW or system might not support those VST-I instruments or their sound library may not be loaded in my future system.
 
I posted a thread 2 years ago about how to back up and more importantly: Label tracks -
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Orginizing-Labeling-Audio-and-Midi-Tracks-m3448904.aspx
2018/02/01 20:06:56
azslow3
D&D a MIDI clip from Sonar to desktop and back - slip edits cut, clip name not there, position unknown.
Almost the same for audio. Even more tricky with FX chains and presets.
 
Sonar was my first DAW and with all respect to it, as a programmer, I have many times asked myself the question: "Why??? Am I stupid?"
So looking for the next DAW I had that question in mind, with a hope and least one DAW developers also think that data preservation should not be complicated and overall what can be simple should be done simple. And yes! There is exactly one DAW which developers thoughts well correlate with my own
 
For data preservation: why not save projects into READABLE text file? Including MIDI, FX presets and everything else? Project corrupted - "copy/paste" tracks/clips in any text editor. The program abandoned - 50 lines script can retrieve MIDI clip from the project (and you do not need to be a programming genie to write it). And in case someone still want all MIDI in separate MIDI files, why not make an option in the DAW to allow that?
Can it be that easy? Yes!
 
But what to do in case MIDI clips, FX chains and presets, automations, etc. are in CWPs, collecting the dust inside HDD folders? I prefer "4 clicks solution". But it was not there... but I am a programmer! So it will be there
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Coming-soon-Sonar-to-Reaper-in-4-clicks-m3725610.aspx
 
I respect the right to make own decisions. If someone prefer to get out of one hole just to immediately fall into the other, I respect even that. This almost "ad" like post serve only once purpose, show alternatives.
2018/02/01 21:18:21
KPerry
Reaper does it like that I believe: XML(?) files that can be edited to change data reliably.
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