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  • Manual vs Audio Driver Latency Offset (p.2)
2018/02/07 14:02:06
Voda La Void
scook
You have changed the subject from recording audio to recording MIDI. The manual offset affects the location of recorded audio on the timeline.
 
When using an ASIO driver the offset is intended to correct the reported driver latency. As I mentioned above some drivers over-report and some under-report latency. My current interface over-reports latency by 21 samples. My last interface under-reported by 76 samples.
 
I suppose the setting could be used any way you wish but I have never heard of anyone using it to address the distance between a listener and the monitors. Not sure that is a good idea.
 
FWIW, here are a couple of threads about the setting
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/1301345
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3178396
 



Yeah, I won't be setting mine to deal with the distance between a listener and the monitors.  I did think it was pretty interesting that he went that far with it, and seemed to understand what he's doing.  Mostly I'm about getting the drum tracks locked in and they will always be tracked with my isolation cans on.  
 
Here's the link to the thread if you are interested:  https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=48884
2018/02/07 15:06:05
DeeringAmps
I have occasionally seen a 1 sample "error" with my RME UFX and Babyface (at 44.1).
I assume at 88 or 96k it would be "spot on".
Its all about the drivers...
 
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2018/02/07 18:43:08
Cactus Music
Yes midi delay is a whole other kettle of fish. The solution to your problem is always direct monitor the Drum Brain while tracking. It's easy to find out is there is latency, just toggle the VST drum Input echo as you play. You'll hear the digital delay. I agree even a tiny bit is annoying with drums. Never had a issue with keyboard.  
So I keep my kit patched into my monitor mixer and keep input echo off on AD2. 
 
Back on topic. 
 
  • Milliseconds X the sample rate = # of samples In the example, if the delay between a pair of room microphones and a soundboard feed in the record's home studio is 17 milliseconds of delay (based 17 feet of distance), the formula becomes:17 times 44.1 = 749.7 samples.  
In this case, the recorder enters a sample delay of 749.70 samples into the software for the closest source to time-align the sources.
    • Samples divided by ​the sample rate = milliseconds   
    • so if a loopback test track is out by 44 samples it is about 1 ms not really noticeable, but a track out by 440 ms is 10 ms so would be very noticeable.  This is why the loopback test is important and even if you don't find anything out of sorts I think it's important to understand your system and how it's performing. In my case both my interfaces were only out by under 10 ms so there was not great need to adjust the timing manually.                  
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