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  • Possible fix for plugin settings not being saved? (p.2)
2018/01/26 11:52:17
mettelus
Basseman
HI:)
 
I found out that if you save a preset of a plugin, you have to save it twice for really saved.
If you just save it once, at next start your preset is not there anymore....
 
Bassman
 


Seriously?? That is one colossal issue. How did that go uncaught?
2018/01/26 15:58:43
sharke
My next plan of attack is to deselect "Do not intercept NRPNs" for these plugins. My thinking is that since Sonar seems to leak MIDI into places it shouldn't be (which I've seen evidence of countless times), perhaps it's doing the same with NRPN's? 
2018/01/26 18:08:09
chuckebaby
mettelus
Basseman
HI:)
 
I found out that if you save a preset of a plugin, you have to save it twice for really saved.
If you just save it once, at next start your preset is not there anymore....
 
Bassman
 


Seriously?? That is one colossal issue. How did that go uncaught?


Can’t say I’ve ever needed to save a preset two times to make it save and I have many saved plug in presets from many different vendors. Only time I’ve had issues with a preset is with the QC EQ.
2018/01/27 09:57:36
Bassman002
HI:)
 
@mettelus
 
Take a Sonitus Plugin for example. change anything, click in the preset field on the left upper corner, type in a name and type "Enter". Close the window and open it again, the preset is gone!
 
Make the same again, but after "Enter" click on the save button! Now it asks if it should overwrite the preset....
 
For overwriting it's for sure the second time being saved:)
 
Bassman.
 
2018/01/28 05:41:40
mettelus
I am still on Manchester / Win7 and tried out saving a few things but cannot replicate a preset not saving in the first go. I wonder if that may be from another version of SONAR, Win10, or something in the default paths set in SONAR prefs.
2018/01/28 08:37:50
Bassman002
Hi:)
 
I'm on Win 10, but I can't remember that this ever worked on just pressing "Enter".It's a reflex for me, pressing Enter and after that "Save" for overwriting the just saved preset....
 
Bassman.
 
2018/01/28 08:51:45
Songroom
Basseman
... pressing Enter and after that "Save" for overwriting the just saved preset....



That's the way I've always saved presets and it's been fine.
 
As for the 'saving twice' method, could it be that the VST UI isn't updating the preset list ?, this would explain why the 'overwrite existing preset' notification appears on the second attempt. It would seem that the new preset exists, it's just not listed.
2018/01/28 11:21:49
Bassman002
HI:)
 
These Presets ar saved in:
 
Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\ActiveMovie\Presets\

 
I've tested it: 
Typed in a name for the preset, pressed Enter:
-->Not written in the registry yet
 
Saved the Project and Exited Sonar:
-->Not written in the registry yet
 
But after clicking on save it's there in the registrypath for this plugin!
 
So perhaps this is why it cannot be saved for only pressing Enter. 
 
Maybe this is the point, Sharke is loosing his Plugin Settings. He should try to save a preset for all plugins......
 
Bassman.
 
2018/01/28 16:48:43
sharke
Basseman
HI:)
 
These Presets ar saved in:
 
Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\ActiveMovie\Presets\

 
I've tested it: 
Typed in a name for the preset, pressed Enter:
-->Not written in the registry yet
 
Saved the Project and Exited Sonar:
-->Not written in the registry yet
 
But after clicking on save it's there in the registrypath for this plugin!
 
So perhaps this is why it cannot be saved for only pressing Enter. 
 
Maybe this is the point, Sharke is loosing his Plugin Settings. He should try to save a preset for all plugins......
 
Bassman.
 


I do, but I have to load the preset for sometimes 50 or more tracks every time I load the project, so it's clearly not an acceptable workaround. In addition, I can't seem to use Sonar's preset saving for Pro-Q - I hit save and it says "overwrite existing preset and I say yes but nothing saves, no matter how many times I do it. So I save using Fabfilter's own preset saving mechanism.
2018/01/28 16:52:13
sharke
Also, I should mention that I believe Sonar to be saving these plugin settings, but something is resetting them to default as the project initializes. And it's something which can happen as you work on the project - last night I had a fully configured Pro-Q reset itself as I was working on a song. This crap is why I'm calling Sonar essentially unusable - it really is for many people.
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