2017/04/05 13:09:01
Guitarhacker
The way I do this is similar to what has already been discussed.
 
I record the lead vocal on several tracks. Each one is a unique recording take. The goal here is to get the phrasing, pitch, and timing as close to exact as possible.  For example, you want all the "S's" to end together, and start at the same time. Leave nothing hanging out there on it's own. Those "S" sounds tend to cut through clearly and will be heard.  You do the same thing with the harmony tracks.
 
How many tracks you record is up to you. I tend to do at least 5 for a minimum. One lead, 2 layered leads, and two harmonies. I take the time to work through each track using Melodyne to fix the pitch and timing issues.

Mixing:  I run the main lead up the center and at the proper level for the lead vocal in the song. The layered leads are panned to the sides and are at -10dB or more.  Generally, I don't really want to be able to hear them in the mix. Hit the solo for the vocal buss and you should be able to hear the layered lead tracks. If you record 4 lead vocal layers, pan 2 R and 2 L and put them at different positions..... one at 50% and the other at 100% for example balanced on both sides. Experiment with levels and position.
 
Do a similar thing for the harmonies. Unless you are looking for a Statler Brothers vocal harmony where each harmony voice is clearly audible, keep the harmonies down low like the layered lead vox. Bring them in enough to provide the harmony spot without it sounding like a group of singers in there. I like to get that level to the point where the harmony is evident but not something that the casual listener instantly hears. It sounds good but they can't tell you why.  You hear this on many of the hit records.
 
Since it is the lead singer's voice and not other singers, it simply adds a fullness to the lead vocal or a thicker sound.
 
That's how I tend to work my vocal tracks in the songs I record.

If you're looking for a chorus of voices, rather than just layered subtle vocals and harmonies, using Melodyne and playing with the formants might get you where you want.  A better alternative is to find a few people interested in helping with the vocal chores and tap their time and talents for the projects that need vocal group singing and harmonies. In another forum site I tend to hang out in, there are vocal collaborations on projects quite often. I've been in a few. Someone sends me a rough file and I lay my equally rough vocal on it and send them back a raw wave. They do the hard work on their mixing process. There are both male and female vocalists doing this. Most requests come in the form of a PM asking if the person is interested in helping out. The downside is that the project time schedule depends on others getting the recording done and back to you in a timely manner. The upside is, it doesn't sound like you sang it all with formant artifacts on display.
 
Edit: one more thing... I hesitate to even suggest this.... the Vocaloid singers are getting better. Some of them excel at certain genres of music and some of them are decent as background singers as long as they are low in the mix and not the lead singer. That gets you a female singer that is on call any time you need.   (proceed with caution) Personally, I don't have one and probably never will.
 
Just my 2 cents. Hope this helps.
2017/04/05 19:41:37
jamesg1213
I always remember this doc with Michael McDonald talking about doing backing vocals for Steely Dan. Scroll to 6:20.
 

 
No real substitute for working out the harmonies and singing all the parts, really well.
2017/04/05 22:02:37
ruralrocker2010
Thank you all for your contributions. It's very much appreciated!
 
Hey Herb thank you for your reply. What they heck is a vocaloid singer?!
2017/05/05 17:51:21
rscain
I did this song with a TC-Helicon VoiceLive 3. They're a little expensive (around $500) but I'm really happy with the results (all the vocal parts are me):
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13430399
2017/05/05 18:46:01
Randy P
Hey Joshua, take a listen to this tune. I recorded this around 6 or 7 years ago. It's kinda dissonant and has some weird phrasing in the verses, but take a listen to the harmonies in the chorus. I wanted that "10cc" type of vibe and with some experimenting I got something pretty cool. It was multiple tracks and creative use of reverb and panning.
 
http://www.soundclick.com/html5/v3/player.cfm?type=single&songid=6967517&q=hi&newref=1
 
What I'm getting at is, you have a good voice and you just need to work with it and experiment some. Soft falsetto close mic, standing farther from the mic and singing a harder and louder harmony, layering and creative delay, reverb, panning. All these techniques are good starting points to come up with something of your own.
2017/05/09 19:32:06
markno999
Joshua,
 
Have been looking into this recently.  Here is the best video I found on using Melodyne to create vocal harmonies with a single voice.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r3P8l50a-M
 
 
Regards
2017/05/10 02:05:17
timidi
2017/05/10 16:36:37
RobWS
The thing that makes a choir a choir is not just everyone singing a phrase with slightly different start and stop times, not just that every singer has different tonal qualities, not just that everyone has a different pitch range, but also that everyone pronounces words differently.  If you sing all of your own vocal parts, you are always pronouncing your words the same on each take.  Even if you modify each take by nudging the start time, modifying the timbre, modifying the pitch, you are still pronouncing all of your words the way it comes naturally to You.
 
"but every time I've ever tried to do them they just sound like me with no real differentiation."  This is one reason why.  Listen to Ringo sing "With A Little Help From My Friends" and then listen to Joe Cocker sing it.  Listen to Mick Jagger pronounce his words.  Try and listen to Elton John pronounce his words.
 
Something to think about.
 
2017/05/10 18:08:21
savageopera
Joshua: A formulative album for me was the first Creedence Clearwater Revival album where John Fogerty apparently performed all the vox tracks himself, making the work a real standout. I loved the tight, clear blend, and unique sound of his 3 and 4 part harmonies compared to the " generic" sound generated by a group of "studio" singers readily found on many of the recordings of the day. You are a strong singer and your backup vocals will give your songs an original sound (even if you tire of it yourself) that others might find interesting and fresh. Sometimes the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, and sometimes its not. I just thought I would offer a different take on this...IMO. Of course it depends on what you are trying to achieve. Just a thought.....Ron.
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