2017/05/08 16:58:18
bapu
I finally setup my Alesis DM-5/Gen-X cymbal system for recording a drummer. The session will take place on the 20th of May.
 
4 outs from the DM-5 (MAIN L = Kick, MAIN R = Snare. AUX is stereo spread of the 6 toms) and stereo outs of the Gen-X Cymbals. All 6 inputs into RME UFX channels 3-8.
 
SONAR Track 1 = Kick input 3 with a send to Out 3
SONAR Track 2 = Snare input 4 with a sent to Out 4
SONAR Track 3 = L Toms input 5 with a send to Out 5
SONAR Track 4 = R Toms input 6 with a send to Out 6
SONAR Track 5 = L Gen-X input 7 with a send to Out 5
SONAR Track 6 = R Gen-X input 8 with a send to Out 6
 
RME outs 3-8 go to Behringer mixer. 
 
Out 3 = Input 1 Kick Center
Out 4 = Input 2 Snare Center
Out 5 = Input 3 Toms/Cymbals L
Out 6 = Input 4 Toms/Cymbals R
Out 7/8 = Input 7/8 Music mix
Drummer uses headphones out on the Mackie during recording.
 
My Behringer still has 3 stereo input pairs so I can expand the capability in the Behringer if need be. I was limited in that I only have 2 snakes of 6 connections each.
 
The drummer can control (to a certain extent) his drum levels relative to the mix and if need be I can control the level of individual instruments to the Out 7/8 pair.
 
 
2017/05/08 18:56:35
batsbrew
multi headphone mixes
is
pretty cool
 
so are
snapshots
 
so is
internal effects
 
2017/05/08 22:13:03
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Yeah man, go for it!

Individual headphone mixes are the way to go ... it pays off if you take the time to set them up properly - better groove, less editing afterwards ... let's hope you can save/recall the routing set up for the next session ...

Just don't give the musos too many knobs to fiddle with. Fix it up for them and let 'em do the playing ...

Edit: MOTU AVB also rocks, giving us here 30+ channels currently and individual HP mixes for every muso ... so does the Behringer X32 system live with P16M mixers ... it's only up to the techie to figure out ;-)
2017/05/08 22:19:24
bapu
Rob[atSound-Rehab]
Just don't give the musos too many knobs to fiddle with. Fix it up for them and let 'em do the playing ...


In this case he'll have 5 knobs. Kick, Snare, Toms/Cymbals L & R and a combined knob for the stereo mix of the music on the hardware monitor mixer.
 
Actually I could change that to 4. Kick, Snare, Stereo mix of toms/Cymbals and stereo mix of the music.
 
The hardware monitor mixer has four mono inputs and 4 stereo pair inputs.
 
2017/05/09 10:40:20
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
bapu
Rob[atSound-Rehab]
Just don't give the musos too many knobs to fiddle with. Fix it up for them and let 'em do the playing ...


In this case he'll have 5 knobs. Kick, Snare, Toms/Cymbals L & R and a combined knob for the stereo mix of the music on the hardware monitor mixer.
 
Actually I could change that to 4. Kick, Snare, Stereo mix of toms/Cymbals and stereo mix of the music.
 
The hardware monitor mixer has four mono inputs and 4 stereo pair inputs.
 




I'd change that to one knob that's labelled "louder" ;-)
 
joking aside - 2 knobs might do i.e. to adjust kit vs. mix because he probably wants to hear the same natural drum balance as you want and blend that with whatever you feed him as a backing track ... monitor mixes on my end usually have drums in a sub group so that every muso can adjust instrument balance quickly as needed but not having to mess with / potentially break the drum balance ... in case snare is ear bleeding loud you'll have to fix it in all monitor mixes, hence a drum sub group / 1 fader for drums should work fine ...
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