• SONAR
  • A word of advice to keep sonar stable. (p.2)
2018/01/26 13:30:47
azslow3
marled
azslow3
burgerproduction
I've also seen it said that Reaper can take Exclusive control of your drivers which can create problems when you try to fire up Sonar.

It can also break your hard disk, permanently destroy your creativity and occasionally steal you music
 
Seriously... That is the only DAW with "portable" install option (it does not touch anything outside installation folder). And as any other program, it use the same set of APIs to work with audio drivers. I mean that is least intrusive DAW everyone can try without consequences, yet you mention it as a possible evil. It is not evil, it is Reaper


And what's about all those "ReaRoute ASIO" drivers that reaper installs? After Reaper's installation I had first to disable all that **** in Sonar and enable my hardware ASIO drivers!

What about reading what you are going to install, before "clicking" ?
That way you will not install unneeded ASIO drivers, malware, spyware and viruses.
a) If you prefer to cleanup after installation, please do not blame software developers for not reading your minds and intentions.
b) Sonar love to prefer new drivers instead of keeping explicitly set by user preferences is outside of Cockos influence
c) unlike ASIO4ALL and some other wrappers, ReaRoute does NOT try to take any hardware drivers under its control. If some particular application is immediately confused when it see more then one ASIO interface in the system, that is again not Cockos responsibility.
 
2018/01/26 14:08:09
marled
azslow3
What about reading what you are going to install, before "clicking" ?
That way you will not install unneeded ASIO drivers, malware, spyware and viruses.

It is great if you always know and understand all what is written in installation processes, but many other users don't and they trust in the software provider's defaults sometimes!
 
azslow3
a) If you prefer to cleanup after installation, please do not blame software developers for not reading your minds and intentions.

No, the developers are never guilty!
 
azslow3
b) Sonar love to prefer new drivers instead of keeping explicitly set by user preferences is outside of Cockos influence

It is not only Sonar that reacts to such installations!
 
azslow3
c) unlike ASIO4ALL and some other wrappers, ReaRoute does NOT try to take any hardware drivers under its control. If some particular application is immediately confused when it see more then one ASIO interface in the system, that is again not Cockos responsibility.

Yes, the software company is never responsible for things happening on their customers computers! It is always the customer who has the full responsibility!
2018/01/26 14:20:13
burgerproduction
Cactus Music
Rule # one- Don't believe  everything you read on the internet. 
You make all  driver settings in the Focusrite control panel. Not Windows audio panel. 
On board audio is normally 48 because of movies so a lot of on board audio is only 48. My old Sound Blaster was like that too. Focusrite supports from 44.1 up to 96 even higher on some models. 



Cactus Music, I would like to add that I only offered that link as a 'general' link - nothing expert. I barely read it myself. However, regarding driver settings, I've noticed that since updating to W10, I am unable to go higher than 48 khz on my Edirol FA101. I've got some old projects in 96 which I have to mix using onboard drivers as, for some unknown reason, I can't get anything above 48 to work with the ASIO legacy drivers on W10.
I don't know if this is an Edirol problem or a Windows problem.
2018/01/26 15:13:58
sharke
marled
azslow3
What about reading what you are going to install, before "clicking" ?
That way you will not install unneeded ASIO drivers, malware, spyware and viruses.

It is great if you always know and understand all what is written in installation processes, but many other users don't and they trust in the software provider's defaults sometimes!
 
azslow3
a) If you prefer to cleanup after installation, please do not blame software developers for not reading your minds and intentions.

No, the developers are never guilty!
 
azslow3
b) Sonar love to prefer new drivers instead of keeping explicitly set by user preferences is outside of Cockos influence

It is not only Sonar that reacts to such installations!
 
azslow3
c) unlike ASIO4ALL and some other wrappers, ReaRoute does NOT try to take any hardware drivers under its control. If some particular application is immediately confused when it see more then one ASIO interface in the system, that is again not Cockos responsibility.

Yes, the software company is never responsible for things happening on their customers computers! It is always the customer who has the full responsibility!


I don't understand - what is so hard about being aware of and taking responsibility for onscreen options during an install? You say that some people place a blind trust in installations as if that's acceptable, but really, it's not. There is nothing stopping anyone from Googling an installation option they don't understand. I've done this many times.
2018/01/26 15:19:21
pwalpwal
sharke
I don't understand - what is so hard about being aware of and taking responsibility for onscreen options during an install? You say that some people place a blind trust in installations as if that's acceptable, but really, it's not. There is nothing stopping anyone from Googling an installation option they don't understand. I've done this many times.


the vast majority don't fact check anything, nevermind software installs
2018/01/26 15:23:25
mettelus
azslow3
 
What about reading what you are going to install, before "clicking" ?
That way you will not install unneeded ASIO drivers, malware, spyware and viruses.




I got a nice chuckle from this one. Never in my life have I had any installer say "Do you wish to install this malware/ spyware/virus?" Pretty much all of those are baked into something appearing legit.
2018/01/26 15:55:01
sharke
pwalpwal
sharke
I don't understand - what is so hard about being aware of and taking responsibility for onscreen options during an install? You say that some people place a blind trust in installations as if that's acceptable, but really, it's not. There is nothing stopping anyone from Googling an installation option they don't understand. I've done this many times.

the vast majority don't fact check anything, nevermind software installs



I'm guessing they all have McAfee installed on their computers 1000x over from those stupid Adobe Flash installers then 
2018/01/26 15:56:43
greg54
Thanks, Cactus Music!
 
Greg
2018/01/26 17:05:00
Cactus Music
Hey Philip. Yes I was making a general statement, hope you don't think I was bashing you, I see that could have been taken that way, But my point is everything these day's is on line and there's very few places I go for TRUSTED information. Even Microsoft user forum has wrong information sometimes. This forum is one of the better places and very few come on here ans spew garbage. And if you do, it is quickly pointed out in a 3 page terse. 
 
Now your issue- How old is that Edrol? there is a point when hardware and it's drivers become obsolete. 
A new interface might be the ultimate solution. 
For the most part your audio interfaces drivers are very important and need to be as up to date as possible these day's or W10 will break them. 
The only other option is to stay on a W7 computer and carry on, nothing wrong with that solution either if the computer is a dedicated DAW. 
 
 
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