Yay,
 
Is there anyone who has a little experience recording and mixing high gain guitars?? For years, yes years, I'm trying to achieve something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bwbCoT7ZIc
For me it's just not working, no matter what I'm trying to do, I end up having a guitar tone that lacks balls, like i'm playing through a metalzone pedal plugged in right into a speaker cabinet or something the like..
And yes I turn the gain down, and the mids reasonably high. I tried every possible mic position, speaker (its an x-pattern 4x12 v30 g12t75), etc.. and I have most of the ingredients for a decent metal soup: EMG active pickups, Tubescreamer, Engl Savage, attenuator, V30, SM57 and a black pick.
Sigh.
 
Any thoughts?
 
UPDATE MARCH 2017:
 
Result so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaLh4jnrIig
 

Mega Detuning?

RSMCGUITAR
Mega Detuning?

Cunning plan.

But the guitar is detuned already, the strings are now close to touching my knees..

Have you tried sending the guy a message and asking him? Might be worth a shot.

jamesg1213
Have you tried sending the guy a message and asking him? Might be worth a shot.

That would have been a good idea indeed... in 2009 or so, cause the guy, unlike me, believe me, became all famous exactly because of these demonstrations and thus doesn't reply anymore to the common youtuber. Thanks for the input though.

sos have some good stuff in this ballpark
http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/extreme-metal
http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/mixing-metal
 

Ooops....disregard....I see you already have the amp.....my bad ;o)
 
Seems to me ya need this....
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001G7JB1K/?tag=dnulgn-20
 ....and a decent setup to record it of course .....;o)

pwalpwal
sos have some good stuff in this ballpark
http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/extreme-metal
http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/mixing-metal

Thanks for the links. I don't think I've read those articles before!
 
I quote:
"Surprisingly, given the importance of guitar tones for extreme metal, once you have got the correct equipment and dialled in the right tone, actually recording the rhythm guitar tracks is usually one of the most straightforward elements of the production. There is no complex engineering technique or hidden secret to getting a great guitar sound, and some of the best metal guitar tones ever recorded were a simple combination of a great player, with the right equipment, miked up with a single SM57."
 
Looks like I will have to continue searching for the right tone, or start being a great player.

BASSJOKER
Ooops....disregard....I see you already have the amp.....my bad ;o)

All is well.
 

straighttothebar

pwalpwal
sos have some good stuff in this ballpark
http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/extreme-metal
http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/mixing-metal

Thanks for the links. I don't think I've read those articles before!
 
I quote:
"Surprisingly, given the importance of guitar tones for extreme metal, once you have got the correct equipment and dialled in the right tone, actually recording the rhythm guitar tracks is usually one of the most straightforward elements of the production. There is no complex engineering technique or hidden secret to getting a great guitar sound, and some of the best metal guitar tones ever recorded were a simple combination of a great player, with the right equipment, miked up with a single SM57."
 
Looks like I will have to continue searching for the right tone, or start being a great player.

maybe try finding a favourite player's fx/setup? they sometimes share this kind of thing, then you'll know whether it's tone or technique ;-)