bapu
Well, I have a great DAW. That has to count for something even if I'm 0 for 4, yes?

Sorry, I'm not following:
http://forum.wordreferenc...we-are-0-for-4.544862/
 

While metal's not really my thing there's a couple of suggestions I'd throw in.

If you're layering riffing distorted guitars, as well as equalising each one slightly differently, make each track's guitar tone less distorted than you think it needs to be - that way there will still be some transients, and punch needs transients, rather than everything being more squashed than everything else, and the distortion will multiply up all by itself as the tracks are layered. One reason Mesas have clean/crunch channels, and why the comparatively lower-gain JCM800 is so popular, is because riffs come across as more powerful if cleaner than flat-out lead tones.

So another thing that might be worth trying is to record some of the rhythm tracks as clean or almost clean guitars or use an acoustic guitar for a one or two of the tracks. Again, it's about creating some stand-out transients to give the riff shape rather than everything having its RMS almost equal to peak volumes all the time.

Alright, I made this track so you guys can judge more accurately. Starting with a hard panned guitar and then builds up to all instruments:
 
https://soundcloud.com/straight-tothebar/mistaken
 
 

Sounds like your on the right track though to match that Engl Savage you need further EQ and ? to brighten the tone more (if your intent?) when I compare them on my cans.  You'll get it dialed in ...think ya gotta cut more off the low end of the bass which might allow more of the gtr top end to cut thru. 

You are obviously a talented musician---and the guitar playing for this type of music is awesome!---That being said I was going to say I thought the snare drum was a bit low? the bass drum kind of dominates (at least in the context of the mix posted)? It might just be my particular speakers though...and yes, I am not really answering the original question---however, I thought the mix was very good--- just too much bass drum ( a little bit) and not enough treble or volume in the snare hits. Again, just a knee jerk listen and my quick reaction...and a thought: with this type of music (and I'm not on the soap box in any way) doesn't the guitar(s) propel the drums and vice versa? In other words, the better the drum dynamic against the guitar dynamic--the friction push and pull....and the beast gets formed...Or something like that. Amazing playing none the less!

I followed everyones guidelines as much as possible, but I'm aware this isn't gonna be perfect overnight, so I'll keep trying and practicing, and maybe one day I'll be able to post somtn in the "Songs" section of this forum too :-)
 
Thank you, all of you, for all the input, it's an honor to be part of this forum!
 
Erik

The fine folks here have brought up most of the things I would have and yes... all this stuff can indeed be overwhelming AND takes a lot of experimenting/practice to really get a hang of (I'm 5 years in and still learning new things all the time).
 
HOWEVER... you should post anything you come up with into the Songs forum for extra advice as you grow. Do not wait until you think you have something that will "meet up" to the forum's high standards. You WANT to post the early experiments because these folks will listen and provide advice to get you to where you want faster.
 
My point is... if you REALLY want to learn how to nail down your sound don't hold back from posting to the Songs forum. There is no pomp, judgement or expectations (aside from some of the occasional ridiculous trolls but if they show up just ignore them). It has many REALLY knowledgable, experienced and friendly folks just ready to help out.
 
The Songs subforum, IMO, is the crown jewel of this site... and that's saying something because there's a lot of good stuff going on around here.
 
Good luck and have fun.

tlw
While metal's not really my thing there's a couple of suggestions I'd throw in.

If you're layering riffing distorted guitars, as well as equalising each one slightly differently, make each track's guitar tone less distorted than you think it needs to be - that way there will still be some transients, and punch needs transients, rather than everything being more squashed than everything else, and the distortion will multiply up all by itself as the tracks are layered. One reason Mesas have clean/crunch channels, and why the comparatively lower-gain JCM800 is so popular, is because riffs come across as more powerful if cleaner than flat-out lead tones.

So another thing that might be worth trying is to record some of the rhythm tracks as clean or almost clean guitars or use an acoustic guitar for a one or two of the tracks. Again, it's about creating some stand-out transients to give the riff shape rather than everything having its RMS almost equal to peak volumes all the time.

lots of helpful advice on this thread, and yes multi-tracking, panning, tweaking the tone slightly is important, as is HPF, but this point is also important - don't set your gain to 10 on all tracks...lowering the gain means less saturation/compression and multi-tracking works better...

Beepster
Oh... and as a guitar player there is a LOT of technique involved in getting that tight bottom end. You need to REALLY have good "right hand/picking" technique. This means ultra tight picking AND having the ability to really manipulate your pick attack via palm muting to open picking to adding subtle (and not so subtle) levels of "pinch harmonics" on your rhythm parts. Right hand technique is MASSIVELY important to slick rhythm tracks. Much more so than "the most perfectest metal amplage EVAR!" in my opinion.
 
Once I write something and even track it "perfectly" as far as the notes and timing I practice it a buttload of times to really nail the right hand nuances so it hits the sims and other guits/instruments in just the right way.
 
Of course this isn't even TOUCHING on the concept of doubling, panning, mirror EQing of rhythm guits which you should look into as well.
 
Cheers.

Beepster is correct.  Try different picks as well.  The heavier the pick the more rhythmic the result.  

if you are dead set on capturing 'metal' tones at less than bedroom volumes,
the single best answer to this is a KEMPER profiler.
 
just go all in.
 

 
2nd best, is to get a good tube amp, run it into this:
 
http://www.humbuckermusic.com/products/suhr-reactive-load?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=3328173569&gclid=CJ679_Xe888CFQgaaQodo8cB3g
 
direct recording.
 
my rig:
mesa boogie markIIb speaker out into palmer PDI-09 (captures direct full strength amp with cab filter into line level output), thru out of the palmer into a WEBER MASS LITE attenuator>>out of attenuator into (2) 1x12 cabs, one of which i typically mic up.
the attenuator allows me to bring the room volume down to a very reasonable level,
for monitoring,
but the signal goes direct into my interface (or preamp) from the palmer, seeing the amp 'full up'.
 
i also have the option to mic a cab as well, and mix that channel with the direct channel.