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Hey TheMaartian!
 
I was unaware of that program TuneSmith, EXCELLENT TIP!
 
I am going to buy it along with the rhymer plugin. It does more than I need but, that is a sign of a great program!
 
Who knows I may evolve into the deeper features of the program with time.
 
This is also a great program for Cakewalk Platinum to offer import of chords and lyrics into their ermmm... ahem, "newly designed text tracks"! 
 
REALLY excited about purchasing it and it works with Windows 10 too!!!
 
TOTALLY AWESOME!
THANKS!

You're welcome.
 
Michael, the developer at Idolumic (from 'idolum' = phantom; he's left me guessing the rest! ) is a terrific guy. He comp'd me 4 licenses for a bit of help when Apple deprecated Quicktime for Windows, and is helping me work with the Director of the School of Music at Northern Arizona University to find financially strapped students who could benefit. Note that TuneSmith runs great, but for the time being at least, you can't record directly into it. I don't miss that feature. I use Field Recorder Pro for Android on my phone and tablet.
 
Also note that TuneSmith is FREE with a $25 license of Rhyme Genie. You don't need to pay for both. I think any songwriter would be hard-pressed to get more for $25.
 
Great idea on the import into SONAR. Now THAT'd be something!
 
Have fun! Write keepers!
 
EDIT: Usage tip: I use Windows snap-to feature with the pair. I snap Rhyme Genie to the left and TuneSmith to the right. The default will give each app half the screen. You can place the cursor between the two windows, you can resize both at the same time. I run with TuneSmith at about 60% of the screen width. That still leaves Rhyme Genie plenty of screen real estate to show 4 columns (1-4 syllables) of suggestions.

I am not going to say that lyrics and chords do not need some love, but I prefer this view over "Markers":

 
Also lyrics has standard MIDI definition, different from markers. So lyrics as such is simpler import to/from Sonar. Including usual and Karaoke MIDI files.
 
I agree that entering lyrics in the Lyrics view is a nightmare, but doing that in the Staff view, when you have a melody, is not so bad. Otherwise you can use any other arranger program with Lyrics and then import result MIDI.

Azslow3 thanks for sharing, that figure looks absolutely beautiful but the problem is (hehe) is I know the work that goes into making that happen.
 
I rarely put the melody into cakewalk, my audio is usually the melody in the form of a vocal audio track and audio to midi is a great feature but never seems to work well for me.
 
I never use staff view because it requires too much math (no offence to those purists who do use staff view, i respect that ability). I am strictly a piano roll 12 tone guy.
 
So I would be happy with either two marker lanes or text tracks. Text tracks would be preferable because the marker text is often too small but okay and I think there is already too much going on in the ruler area as is. I am constantly clicking in the ruler and it does things to my work space that i did not even know it did nor do i know how to make it do the same things again, like select all and zoom features that are sometimes a nuisance (to me that is). 
 
But two rulers w/markers would solve my problem fine and dandy. (no more complaints)
 
Text tracks where text events could be inserted as easily as markers would be FANTASTIC! If the text tracks could be undocked and function like lyric view, that would be impressive! Did I say impressive? I meant REALLY impressive!!!! :)
 

+11 for this feature request

I've been wanting multi-purpose tracks that go beyond audio/midi, such that they could support multiple marker tracks, etc.

Here's my original post
http://forum.cakewalk.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3224655

Just copying my aforementioned post here:

It would be cool if we could have new types of tracks for these purposes:

Existing track types:
- audio
- MIDI

Suggested new track types:
- marker/arranger (song sections)**
- To Do list
- lyrics
- chords
- BPM ruler
- SMPTE ruler
- blank (for spacing large projects)
Etc

**Selecting an arrangement section would automatically select the entire set of tracks within that time-selection. And moving that arrangement/marker clip would automatically move everything else too. Simples!

Regardless, you would be able to add in multiple track types of the new kind. So I could have multiple marker/arranger tracks (one could be used to describe low level song sections, such as verse, chorus, etc., and another could be high-level sections, such as part 1, part 2, etc.). I could also add in multiple BPM/SMPTE ruler tracks so that these line up against any audio/midi track for ease of reading etc. (this would be especially useful if a I had a movie sound track that required noises at a particular time, whereas another audio track was lined up against an BPM ruler for musical purposes). Etc


For now, here's my approach to labeling song sections, by repurposing a MIDI track and using its clips to indicate those songs sections (see image below).

http://variousartist.com/..._InformationTracks.jpg

Basically I create some dummy information on a new MIDI track, and then I extend out the MIDI Clip to represent a section of a song. I can then use that clip to help select a section of the song for rearrangement purposes or just simply to identify the section more clearly.

True, I could use markers for this purpose, but I find they get very cluttered with all the notes I want to make. However, by using a MIDI track for this information I can create as many tracks and spread out the marker type information (e.g. song sections, to do reminders, etc.)

I am still waiting for text tracks.... Band in a box has chord tracks...
 
I hope to see that this features is "in the oven" soon or I will be looking for a new sequencer for my early song creation needs. Cakewalk is great for editing and every update editing gets much better, once the tracks are solidified, but it is terrible for brainstorming initial ideas.
 
Seriously cakewalk is nearly unusable without text tracks for early song formation... 
 
I don't need load balancing though it is nice, I don't generally need multiple select and fancy new color schemes... I need chord tracks and text tracks. Practicality and usability over aesthetics. Color schemes I rarely ever even use, it is rather an after thought than a necessity.
 
Chords and text are rudimentary tracks and I hope your programmers get this on the FAST TRACK, it is interrupting my workflow terribly now. 
 
I seriously am thinking of changing sequencers and I just bought lifetime updates. Been on this Cakewalk train since DOS and without text tracks this is seriously no "cakewalk" anymore.
 

 
I need text tracks yesterday... I said this last month. Please indicate that this is in the works. Several years ago I wrote about this on these very forums and so have several others voiced this vital feature need. I have nearly 200 songs I have created in cakewalk and I am tired of jumping the same hoops time and again because there is a single marker lane and/or no text tracks. These text tracks don't need to be that sophisticated the markers certainly aren't. 
 
I end up with an entire new song virtually in my head because there are not multiple text and chord tracks to help nail down the song ideas and early structure formation.
 
Please halt some of the feature plans and address this need first.

Okay I think it was mentioned a while back in this thread and I did not give it enough consideration.
 
I have found a workaround for text tracks. It is great that Cakewalks has this feature and it seems no longer a feature that is "missing". Cakewalk has had text tracks all along.
 
I was thinking I would have to use audio clips and name each one with chords or lyrics. I thought that would have been overkill.
 
Instead I tried it with midi clips I dragged the clip pane to the size I wanted and I only have one midi event in the midi clip. I can go to the clip properties panel and input text. I can copy and paste the clip and successively rename and position the clips. It is quite easy once I have an initial midi event clip inserted.
 
The text is readable for my purposes and I simply mute the midi track.
 
Problem solved. I am sorry I did not investigate this further and sooner. Copying and renaming midi clips couldn't actually be any easier.  I am so glad I have this problems solved. 
 
Hope this is a help to others struggling with this same dilemma. :)
 
I am very happy with Cakewalk!
 
And BTW the the new load balancing feature is done well. I don't have quite as large a spike in the first processor of the quad cores as I did before. Awesome program!

+1 .   I use the markers to watch chord changes. Second or third lane would let me add so much more info.

I use multiple monitors and so I've been a long-time proponent that any/all views should allow multiple windows,  For instance, two Track Views open simultaneously could also provide different zooms and could provide multiple time lines with multiple markers.
 
The solution might lie in the information listed in the Marker View.  How hard would it be to add a column to that data that allows each marker to be classified as "Chords," "Lyrics," "Chorus," or you name it.  With that data, it would be pretty straightforward to turn markers on or off.  Hey, kick it up another notch by associating colors with each marker type!
 
I enjoyed learning about your songwriting workflow suggestions, but I think multiple marker types create even more opportunities than the ones you're looking for.

I like your idea! I also have been needing this.
But shouldn't be limited to two...it should be "limitless" and you select from a dropdown which you want to view/show. Dropdown from saved marker-lists.