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2017/03/23 11:15:48
JohanSebatianGremlin
peter47
thanks for the feedback..this is a great community for help and reading these reply's has givin me more insight then years of looking at youtube..

If you're going to youtube for insight into how/why audio compressors work, that's probably part of your problem. There are tons of videos on youtube which demo the sound of an audio compressor. And in most of them, the audio with the compressor bypassed sounds almost exactly the same as the audio with the compressor engaged. 
 
I believe this is because the audio in every video uploaded to youtube get processed through youtube's own compression algorithm. You're not going to hear much a difference after that because now all the audio in the video is being compressed. The audio with the compressor engaged will just be compressed a bit more than the audio without.

If you want to really understand what compression does to audio, you need to find a how-to source where you can download raw wave files of the audio before and after compression is applied. Otherwise the differences will be much more difficult to hear.
 
2017/03/23 14:28:03
AT
Most demos over the internet can't give you a real appreciation of the actual sound.  Capture, video codec for editing transfer, rendering, video compression for youtube, etc.  I love the people who purchase a mic or preamp only after listening to internet audio.
 
The theory is simple - a compressor squashes the difference between the softest and loudest parts of a track, so that the sound is fuller.  On screen, a compressed track looks more like a ruler than a bouncing recording - which is exactly how it sounds.  As pointed out above, it can keep the level high enough so a supporting sound doesn't fluctuate and disappear under the lead, while a lead will float steadily above all the backing  sounds.  And for that delicate balancing work you need to hear the details, not something that has been squashed after the artist finished the piece. 
 
 
2017/03/23 15:32:37
peter47
yes indeed youtube is proberly not the best way of "hearing" compression demonstrated and most times i can not hear a bit of difference only that it sounds louder,however i have seen a few groove 3 vids which are to some extent helpfull i think the only sure fire best way to learn the "beast" that is compression is to try it out for yourself having said that i have mentioned in op i am tone deaf but this music prodution hobby is a lot of pleasure for me..most of the explanations here have indeed been very helpfull and i will continue to dig deep into your minds!!!
is stamp collecting an easier hobby???
regards Peter
2017/03/23 16:26:13
JohanSebatianGremlin
Not to get nit picky but tone deafness in its true form, i.e. unable to distinguish one pitch from another, should not affect the ability to hear or use compression in the least since compression does not change the pitch of the audio at all. 
 
I suspect that what you mean when you say that you're tone deaf is actually something more along the lines of you don't have an ear that's super well-trained in the art of honing raw audio into sonic gold. No one is born with such an ear. Its a matter of time and effort to develop the skill. 



2017/03/24 09:19:25
pilutiful
Jeff wrote a great description. Sure helped me to understand more what compression is and what it does:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3564426
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