Wow...sad to here this. I was hopeful. What amazes me is the fact that with Kinetic and Project5 Cakewalk was 2 or 3 years ahead of BPM and Maschine but I guess Cakewalk wasn't looking in that direction then. They could have a matured product by now could have danced circles around them by now. There are still some things that Kinetic can do that BPM can't. Hopefully the future develope will bring back a competitive edge again. Both products are fabulous pattern sequencing programs maybe we'll see some sort of reincarnation of P5 later. Oh well BPM it is then.

Talk about heart-breaking!!!

This is one of those spirit dashing moments...There goes my hopes of seeing P5 evolved to its greatest potential...It would've been great to see P5 become that MPC replacement, I'd been pushing Cakewalk to make it through the FR page...serious let down.

Thanks for at least letting us know...

ORIGINAL: urock

You should sell the code to someone.

I've written somewhat extensively about this and received nothing but opposition on the idea. I think it's a great one so +1.

This doesn't bother me at all, and makes tons of sense. I think most of us are happy to simply have a real answer finally.

Of course, it doesn't mean a person has to stop using the software. Obviously it still works, and while of course no one wants to make their main music platform a dead-end, it doesn't mean it's not a great tool for certain things (beat-making, pattern generation, idea-catching...other hypen-related things...)

For the people who are upset, I would mention simply that P5 just never got a foothold worth Cake's continued investment. Big deal. Things get cut all the time. I'm sure Cake were hoping P5 would be a Reason/Live competitor and it just worked out that the other two programs found their niches faster and better. It's a shame, but it's just reality. I'm not gonna stick Cake with the blame that more laptop-loop kids liked Live more.

Looking to the brighter side, I think it FINALLY opens up the door for P5's still-awesome features to be ported over to SONAR in some way. Like Candlesayshi mentioned, SONAR is indeed in need of a semi-major transformation (and really, if sticking to the 10-year timetable they have, SONAR 10 would actually be a brand new product) and now we know what some of the awesome tools they can bring to bear.

I doubt it was anything nefarious on the part of Cake, I'm sure people like Seth over there were totally bummed about it, but I think they prolly had some long long meetings and realized it wasn't a success, nor a fit for their plans.

Like I said before, I'm just glad to have a definitive answer and am excited that it now means all the good parts of P5 are fair game to yank over to SONAR.

When I saw Beatscape, I heard the coffin lid slam shut. This doen't surprise me at all... I say this without any rancor or hard feelings: I called this one in Technicolor last October. (See post #4)

I think my comment on Dim Pro is in the process of bearing out, too.

Love the app, I'll keep using it when the muse beckons... I have some other musical directions I have been pursuing lately, but it works fine, and is still in my arsenal.

And, I'll still be here in the forum... y'all's fambly, man.

Peace,

Russ

ORIGINAL: Chrisma

Wow...sad to here this. I was hopeful. What amazes me is the fact that with Kinetic and Project5 Cakewalk was 2 or 3 years ahead of BPM and Maschine but I guess Cakewalk wasn't looking in that direction then. They could have a matured product by now could have danced circles around them by now. There are still some things that Kinetic can do that BPM can't. Hopefully the future develope will bring back a competitive edge again. Both products are fabulous pattern sequencing programs maybe we'll see some sort of reincarnation of P5 later. Oh well BPM it is then.

Speaking of Kinetic, it's been three years since its last release. How long until the announcement for that program?

What a bummer... well, at least we have a excellent tool for creating music in an inventive and inspiring way. For that I am greatful to Cakewalk. Can't blame em.

Now I am going to put on a shroud and sit in ashes.

I hope this forum will remain alive as a testament to a great program by a great company.

Kind regards,


tecknot

Lets see - Project 5 brought me Dimension (& Pro), nPulse, DS864, Roland Groove Synth, Cyclone, PSYN I & II, Velocity, and introduced me to the good stuff - Rapture, Z3ta+, Battery, RMIV (Thanks Sean), GPO, and many more.

And I've managed to meet quite a few nice folks here and abroad in the process!

Thank you Cakewalk.

PS. P5 is still my go-to DAW for initiating new ideas - and it runs just fine thank you...

Peace!

edit: I guess what I was going to spend upgrading P5 will now go towards buying the latest version of Finale - not bad, really...

I like to see something like Groove Matrix in Sonar 9. PLEASE!! and project 5 FX too!!

Hey, what about those of us who upgrade our Sonar like clockwork every fall? Do we get a $100 rebate?!

And if you already own Sonar 6 or 7, the upgrade prices are a a lot less than the "deal" Cakewalk is offering P5 users. If you own Sonar 6 or 7 SE it's $179 or $129 if you own Sonar 6 or 7 PE. So much for the appreciation of loyal supporters. I already own S7 SE and got it bundled with Dim Pro. So S8 PE doesn't really offer me much. Besides, Sonar is way too complicated for me at this point, which is why I'll keep using P5 as long as it works on my computer.

Hey Cakewalk, what about giving me a free copy of Sonar Home Studio instead -- I'm serious!