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  • I am wondering what control surfaces are compatable with splat? (p.2)
2017/09/29 05:17:24
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
fireberd
To answer your question, Behringer got a bad name for some of the stuff they used to sell.  Later equipment seems to have improved and on a par with many others.  I had a Behringer BCF2000 and it worked but the motorized faders were noisy. The motorized faders on the X-Touch are quiet.  




I can second that. The new Behringer stuff is really good and excellent value for money. If I would not have a CS, I'd probably try to work with 2x X-Touch (best value for price) ... and it is not tied to a single DAW (which is the BIGGEST drawback the VS-700 has i.e. it works fine in Sonar but you can't go anywhere without having tons of buttons without functionality)
2017/10/16 23:46:06
Steev
 Love my X Touch, slightly more then my old Mackie which was destroyed in a flood. (you might be able to run a Mackie over with a pickup truck and they will still work, but submerge them under water for a day or two and all bets are off.)
 Of course if it wasn't for the unexpected death, I wouldn't have gotten the X Touch in the first place, but the scribble scrip's and LED channel meters are very nice additions, and it's costs about 1/3 of the price of a Mackie, and has a surprisingly good feel and build quality
 Main problem with X Touch for newbies is Behringer had never provided DAW specific overlays for the control section as Mackie did for their Uni. Controller.
 All the buttons and functions are exactly the same on the X Touch as the Mackie and they all WORK, right out of the box just in slightly different places so I just used a label maker. That was easy to do for me, being very familiar with using the Mackie DAW controller, but those who are new to control surfaces must seek and find a control section overlay template either here in the Cake forums or X Touch forums to avoid HUGE amounts of confusion and frustration. But it's ok to use obvious stuff like channel strips, transport section, and below on the unit 
 No drivers required for either unit, the both run on Mackie's MCU protocol which SONAR understands very well. To set up the X Touch to work in Sonar is super easy. Hold down the "Select" button on Chan. 1 while powering it up, choose MC by rotating Chan 1 rotary encoder, and choose USB in chan. 2, power down and back up, hook up a USB cable and the X Touch is ready to be enabled as a MIDI device and set up in SONAR as a Control Surface. And that's all folks.
 It's like ridiculously stupid easy simple for anyone who has ever set up a MIDI Keyboard Controller, and you'll NEVER have to worry about any obsolete drivers making it unstable or orphaning it to a new OS upgrade on Windows or Mac.
 
 
 Also Sweetwater has an 8 channel extender for the X Touch for $350 (us) which makes thinks even more very nice! https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/XTouchEXT
2017/10/20 12:45:59
thedukewestern
Steev
 Love my X Touch, slightly more then my old Mackie which was destroyed in a flood. (you might be able to run a Mackie over with a pickup truck and they will still work, but submerge them under water for a day or two and all bets are off.)

Well - this answers my question.......  So you've actually owned both - can you delve into a comparison a little deeper?
2017/10/20 16:53:48
dwardzala
I will second (third?) the X-Touch.  Love it.  Once I get my laser etched template for it, it will be the bomb (I have a paper template for it now.)
2017/10/21 00:09:04
chuckebaby
I use an older Mackie MCU (one of the earlier versions/dark grey) it runs through midi.
Bought it used for 175.00 bucks on CL 2 years ago. It has motorized faders, lexan overlays for Cubase, sonar, pro tools, cool edit, exc.
I love it. it is very simple to set up and works like a tank. never any issues with it once.
I especially like the use of midi Vs. USB. not only does it free up ports but it doesn't even need a driver.
Sonar was meant to play with Mackie MCU. Couldn't be more happy and I saved hundreds of dollars Vs. getting an X touch.
2017/10/21 17:22:56
Steev
Great price for the Mackie. If I found a Mackie for that I would have an X Touch either, lol.\
 Any way, the X Touch runs on Mackie's MC protocol entirely in MIDI as well so it's plug and play, it just uses a USB to port MIDI directly into your computer so no drivers are needed.
 The X T also has 2 USB ports on the rear, so you actually gain a USB port.
2017/10/21 23:03:50
chuckebaby
Good to know. Been looking at the X touch. not ready to upgrade yet, but when I do, that might be my first choice.
Thanks Steev
2017/10/22 01:02:19
WallyG
Steev
....The X T also has 2 USB ports on the rear, so you actually gain a USB port.


Steev, Thanks!
 
I purchased my X-Touch when they first were available and love it! I probably noticed the two USB ports in back but didn't pay much attention since at the time I had plenty of USB ports. But over time I added "stuff", (breath controllers, external number pad for Sibelius, etc.) and ran out of ports. Thanks for jogging what's left of my memory...
 
Walt
2017/10/22 18:58:47
tnipe
Anyone have any advice for a controller to control the ProChannel EQ specifically? Looking at Console1, but maybe there's something to do this for less $$? Thanks!
2017/10/22 20:45:03
azslow3
tnipe
Anyone have any advice for a controller to control the ProChannel EQ specifically? Looking at Console1, but maybe there's something to do this for less $$? Thanks!

For ProChannel EQ (+Comp), you can check this: http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,301.0.html (see PDF in the second post, ProChannel mode) or http://www.azslow.com/index.php/topic,274.msg1246.html#msg1246 (note that controller has finite knobs, not convenient if you hop between channels a lot)
Finally, any controller can be adopted to work like this (if you already have some). So you cat "try before buy".
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