• Cakewalk Hardware
  • Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? [Solved thru Hacking] (p.2)
2015/02/06 20:33:24
Marcus Curtis
Yes I am dealing with the same thing here. I don't want to install Sonar X3 on my PC. I just did a clean install. What was cake thinking? a lot of people use that audio interface. why get rid of the surface control options in platinum? I will submit a feature request and see where that leads. Hopefully now that we are all members this will be addressed soon.
2015/02/07 13:28:09
francoml
gcolbert
Just wondering if this also needs to be installed http://www.rolandus.com/support/knowledge_base/201975989
It is the control surface driver for the VS-100from the Roland site, but actually redirected to the Cakewalk site.
 
Glen




Thank you Glen, we have installed the latest VS drivers from Roland, but the truth is: CakeWalk Platinum doesn´t have support anymore to VS-XXX surface controls... if you do a new Sonar Platinum Install and VS-XXX driver install, you won´t see in the Surface list the VS-XXXX as options.. that´s why we need to hack and ask at the feature request.
2015/02/08 10:50:21
Marcus Curtis
francoml
gcolbert
Just wondering if this also needs to be installed http://www.rolandus.com/support/knowledge_base/201975989
It is the control surface driver for the VS-100from the Roland site, but actually redirected to the Cakewalk site.
 
Glen




Thank you Glen, we have installed the latest VS drivers from Roland, but the truth is: CakeWalk Platinum doesn´t have support anymore to VS-XXX surface controls... if you do a new Sonar Platinum Install and VS-XXX driver install, you won´t see in the Surface list the VS-XXXX as options.. that´s why we need to hack and ask at the feature request.




I don't know why there is no support for the vs line. After all, The hardware says cakewalk not Roland. Even if Roland made the vs line you would think that cakewalk would still support it in their software due to their name brand being listed on the hardware.
 
I suspect that there may be some legal reason for this. In any event the problem is solved by clicking on the link that Glen provided and downloading the plugin. Thank You Glen!
2015/02/08 13:49:03
FCCfirstclass
Glen, thanks much
 
Clint
 
 
BTW I just downloaded Platinum on Friday and am going to install it today.  You saved what hair I have left.
2015/02/09 10:18:56
azslow3
Marcus Curtis
I suspect that there may be some legal reason for this.

For VS-X00, as well as for any other hardware control surface for SONAR, there are 2 different types of "drivers":
  1. Windows system drivers, so the device is recognized by the system and presented to (any) software as a MIDI device. I do not think CW has/had something to do with that code. This driver is closely bound to the hardware and it's firmware and it is not SONAR specific.
  2. Control Surface plug-in in SONAR. That is what you see in the "Control Surfaces" preferences. This program (dll) is SONAR specific. It is Open Source (for VS-X00 devices) under MIT license, so it can be distributed and/or modified by anyone without future license agreements.
I expect that in case of general problems (future Windows versions support, drivers crash, unrecognized devices, freezes, etc.) the only support company is Roland. For SONAR specific problems (something does not work as expected in SONAR, new SONAR features, etc.) CW can provide support independent from Roland.
 
In fact the same is true for all other devices. For example, ACT MIDI plug-in is CW creation. But CW is not responsible for system drivers of any particular device which can work with it.
 
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