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  • Interesting reading on Mike positioning.
2016/12/09 08:47:11
patm300e
This link (I found in SOS):
http://www.cambridge-mt.com/rs-lmp.htm
 
Has an amazing array of different instruments and recordings with different mike positions. YMMV, but I find it intriguing.
 
Enjoy,
 
Pat.
2016/12/09 08:56:16
fwrend
Nice, thanks for sharing!
2016/12/11 19:18:40
bitflipper
Sheesh, somebody went to a lot of trouble to do those tests! Way more scientific than any experiments I've ever done. It'll take a while just to wade through the whole thing. Great find.
2016/12/12 07:52:13
patm300e
Thanks, bit.  I find a lot of good info from SOS.  Just hit the subscribe button there.
 
 
2016/12/17 11:50:13
wst3
I'm not comfortable dropping names, so apologies if this sounds pretentious!
Back in the days before the world wide web there was an online service for musicians called Performing  Artists Network, or PAN. I was unbelievably fortunate to co-sysop their audio board with Bruce Swedien. Yup, the one and only!
 
While I never did manage to sit at his elbow in a session, we spent many an hour discussing recording techniques, on and off line. The one point he reinforced, over and over again, was microphone selection and placement. It is the key to his success, or so he claimed.

His other key point was to experiment every chance I got, and that meant ignoring the rules too. We had a thread going for quite a while about desert island microphones. The answers were as varied as the contributors. There were no wrong answers!
 
Granted his microphone locker is a wee bit deeper than mine, his advice made a HUGE difference in my tracks. I (slowly) reached  the point where I wasn't using compressors and equalizers as much when I reached the mix phase, the tracks say well in the mix because I had used a specific microphone, and placed it accordingly, to capture the sound I was after.
Some 30+ years later I still experiment, my starting choices might be closer today, but it seems there  is always room for improvement. And as I (slowly) add microphones to my locker there is always more to learn.
 
There is no substitute for placing your microphones in front of an instrument, b..ut that SOS article, among others, can be a good starting point. I'd also recommend the videos from Mojave and Royer microphones. They show the details of how they record using those microphones.

Even now, with rare exceptions, I seldom start a tracking session without first experimenting a little bit with both selection and placement.

None of this is meant to suggest that there is no place for compressors and equalizers, for correction and/or artistic alterations. There is certainly ample room for both, and he certainly has a wide selection of tools to sculpt the sound during and after tracking. It's all about the starting point!

The trick - for me anyway - was thinking about the sound I am looking for, and getting as close as possible using the source and microphone, and arranging them to attain the result.

Yup - a stroke of outrageous good fortune!!!
2016/12/19 07:41:22
patm300e
Wow Bill, must have been a great experience learning from a master like Bruce.  I am sure your mixes improved from this.  I am jealous, but have learned a lot from this forum, and the many generous people here as well as the Groove3 people.  I am just getting to the point where I don't squish the crap out of my recordings and I am much more sensitive to positioning than I used to be.
2016/12/19 07:50:24
gbowling
Excellent find. As Bit said, it's going to take me a lot of time to wade through all those. 
 
Will also be interesting to hear other opinions on the various mike positions.
 
gabo
2016/12/19 12:53:48
wst3
patm300e
Wow Bill, must have been a great experience learning from a master like Bruce.  I am sure your mixes improved from this.  I am jealous<snip>

Don't be, really... right place, right time, and dumb enough to volunteer<G>!
 
I can't say I learned any tricks from Bruce or the other heavies that hung out there, nothing specific, more like a way to approach things, and I've tried to share that over the years.

He is one of the most gentle, generous, and genuine geniuses I've ever met. A genuinely good guy!
 
 
2017/01/07 11:57:54
tagruvto
Wow!  This is a treasure trove of really useful information.
thanks so much for posting this.
2017/01/09 08:05:12
patm300e
Thanks tagruvto, I try to share information so that we as Sonar faithful can make the best music possible.  Who knows maybe one day Sonar will be as popular as (dare I say it?) Pro Tools...
 
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