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2017/01/27 03:30:42
stevenst
Does anyone know how to turn off AudioSnap? It is preventing me from adding Dub channels at the correct latency offset from my sync track. I start recording on a channel and when I stop the transport, Sonar immediately moves the channel into alignment with my metronome sync track. This prevents me from being able to punch in new segments on the track - because the correct latency delay is then lost.
 
The Sonar Doc says that AudioSnap can be disabled with the Bypass button on the AudioSnap control panel - but that control is non-functional.
2017/01/27 07:29:00
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
the on/off button in audio snap should work ok. you could be having audio snap enabled on several tracks without realizing which could be causing something like this ... unfortunately you need to click the individual clips to see whether audio snap is on or off ... i'm not aware of a global on/off button
2017/01/27 14:31:59
stevenst
Good idea Rob; What version of Sonar are you using?

I will create a new project with only 2 tracks, record my Met into Track 1, route the signal from the DAW 1 output back thru the input of my Saffire 18i20 USB mixer to Track 2 and then record the signal. I'll let you know if I can keep AudioSnap from moving the recorded Track 2 signal.
Note: Sonar Pro seems to not allow AudioSnap to be disabled on a track that contains no clip.
2017/01/27 15:51:11
Sheanes
still on Sonar X3 and had this too.
allthough I had audiosnap disabled on all tracks, when opening the project it said someting about 'loading audiosnap transients'.
When I then save the project under a new name, that message shows no more.
 
2017/01/27 18:03:57
stevenst
Here are my AudioSnap test results with Sonar Pro V21.12 Manchester.
Opened a new project with only 2 tracks; Recorded my Met on Track 1; Routed the signal thru my 18i20 mixer back to Track 2 and recorded the Track 1 Met on Track 2.
During recording the waveform latency delay could be seen - but when I stopped that transport - Sonar again synced Track 2 to Track 1!
I verified that AudioSnap was not enabled on either track.
Same Question: How can I shut off AudioSnap and stop Sonar from resyncing my tracks!
2017/01/27 20:12:54
stevenst
Request: I cannot complete an important project with Sonar immediately syncing every recorded track. Cakewalk Sonar will not respond to my email support request and is not accepting phone calls.
It would really help if some of you could try the simple test above with your version of Sonar and then report back if Sonar is also force-syncing new tracks when the transport is paused or stopped.
2017/01/27 20:44:11
Sheanes
that is not the 'audiosnap' function in Sonar.
it's the latency compensation that Sonar and probably all other DAWS have.
you can record a track on track 2 (for example a guitar track) and that will not snap to your metronome automatically unless you enable 'audiosnap' on that track manually and set the snap etc....it's a complete other function from what you're seeing with your metronome track.
When your route 1 paticular track (your metronome track) out and then back into Sonar, that will automatically allign both.
it's not an error or bug, it's meant to do that and it's not called 'audiosnap'.
there might be a setting under Preferences that let's you disable that, I don't know.
 
at least, that's how I think it is...
 
 
2017/01/27 21:40:25
stevenst
Sheanes,

Thank you for the feedback. However, you are incorrect that DAWs automatically align input tracks to the other tracks. That function is manually invoked by the operator. In my situation, regardless of the nature of the track - click, vocal, instrumental, etc. - Sonar is syncing the track when pause or stop is pressed. And your statement that syncing will not occur unless AudioSnap is enabled is also not correct; even if the AudioSnap icon is disabled, syncing still occurs when pause or stop is pressed.

Note: I am not using the Sonar Met. for my test signal; I am feeding an external Met. into an 18i20 input, recording it, routing the DAW output signal back into a mixer analog input - and then recording that on Track 2. There is no difference between that signal and a guitar or vocal signal; they are all detected thru zero-crossing.

Forum - please run my test above if you can. Thank you!
2017/01/27 21:54:21
Sheanes
I didn't say DAWS automatically allign input tracks, they do allign tracks that you send out, and import back in....as what you're doing with that metronome track.
this will happen with Audiosnap enabled and disabled, it's not an audiosnap task what you're seeing.
 
just record a track and you'll see it won't lign up to your metronome.
 
2017/01/27 22:06:56
brundlefly
Preferences > Audio > Sync and Caching > uncheck 'Use ASIO Reported Latency'
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