My goal is besides recording instruments individually to also provide the best recording situation for recording a full band live.
So this would include 2 overheads for the drums. Anybody with more experience than me can tell me if this is possible at all?
 
Does it make sense to do this or will i pick up so much noise from the rest of the band that it's just pointless. The studio is of decent size but there will alway be amps near the kit (10 feet). Any tricks for this?
 
Thanks.

Well positioned and aimed, you will get tracks probably useful.

Careful sending them to the mains... I'd expect feedback.

The main overhead tip is measure that they are equidistant from the snare head. Usually, a Mic cable makes a decent yard stick.

They can be very effective in a recording. It depends on the mics too. Rode NT5's are amazing in this role. Position them well slightly out front and pointing in towards the kit. Down a little lower. You will get very little PA sound and lots of OHead sound. No need to put OHeads in the PA of course in the recording situation.

I would be micing snare and kick as well. The equidistant thing from the snare head is not over critical. I have done it many times and not worried about that and the ohead sound has always been good. If you point them more in a near coincident array they will be less sensitive to the snare anyway.

gswitz
Well positioned and aimed, you will get tracks probably useful.

Careful sending them to the mains... I'd expect feedback.

The main overhead tip is measure that they are equidistant from the snare head. Usually, a Mic cable makes a decent yard stick.

Sounds good. Thanks.

Jeff Evans
They can be very effective in a recording. It depends on the mics too. Rode NT5's are amazing in this role. Position them well slightly out front and pointing in towards the kit. Down a little lower. You will get very little PA sound and lots of OHead sound. No need to put OHeads in the PA of course in the recording situation.

I would be micing snare and kick as well. The equidistant thing from the snare head is not over critical. I have done it many times and not worried about that and the ohead sound has always been good. If you point them more in a near coincident array they will be less sensitive to the snare anyway.

I will be micing the while kit. I was just worried about the overheads. Thanks for the info. It's just what i wanted to head.

The pickup pattern makes a big difference here. Cardioid should be fine, hyper-cardioid, even better. Figure 8 or Omni would pick up too much of the room. If you get too much from the room, you may simply bring the overheads closer to the kit, or forego them and simply close-mic everything. You might try placing overheads facing toward the kit, vs, down at it, or lower behind the kit, and angle guitar amps away from walls or the drums.

With that said, if your concern is controlling the room, try it out, but don't be afraid to separate the guitars, etc. from the room, putting them in separate rooms with headphones. You obviously can't go back and fix lots of bleed very well, and overheads are the absolute worst to gate. The benefit of separating other instruments is that you can introduce room mics on the drums, which will make them sound more live for the band.

Try it and see. Listen to the overheads before committing them.

This may seem like an odd suggestion, but these hand-held ribbon mics work great on overheads because of their (atypical for ribbons) directivity. A little pricey for a pair of them, though. But they'll do double duty as vocal mics, too.
 

I would use a di box for the bass (you can re-amp it after tracking if need be), run keys direct and place some gobos in front of the guitar amp(s). I would hate to ruin a great drum take because of a bass or guitar clam in the overheads. Experiment with mic placement and as Jeff mentioned try to keep OH mics phase in check.
 
Rocky

The genre of music or the music determines whether overhead mics are even used. For the most part it is always better to simply record overheads and have them in your mix options. To bring cymbal patterns and things back into the mix is always nice and overheads are well worth tracking.
 
The Beyer Mic looks great. Because of the pattern, it would not be picking up much of what would coming from behind them and that sort of mic always works better.  The NT5's are very directional as well.  Slightly toward the front of the kit and pointing inward and still slightly closer into the drums.  Not too close on cymbals though. The ribbon will smooth out the top end sound of the Oheads depending on the cymbal choices. (Also wood or nylon tip stick options)
 
Spaced pair is also good because you can track either side of the kit better which is what you need and the stereo imaging is a little pronounced which is also rather handy. With the right plugins you can bring that over wide stereo image closer in but still without the snare sound so much.  The close mic snare will always blend in well with the snare spill in the OHeads. OHeads also sound better when you hit them way less hard. 
 
It's nice if you can stand some tallish baffles either side of the kit and slightly enclose it.  In a live PA recording situation.  About 6 foot high and 4 feet wide say.  Reasonably soft either side.  Not too enclosed in either so the drum sound can still escape to the room for others to hear well.  It reduces the amount of spill form the rest of the band and the PA.  If you can enclose in the top of drums in with some more absorption (something light that can rest and lock onto the tops of the baffles either side) it will help too.  That goes a long way to keeping more sound out of the OHead mics.  The PA speakers on the stands outside the drum area in the room can be pointing away from the drum enclosure but toward the other sides of the room more, where other musicians can be setup. Very little of the PA can end up in the OHeads track with care of setup.  In a larger room too you can spread a little further away and use foldback systems/headphones more.  The the spill has to travel further to the Oheads and it will get quieter in the process.