2015/06/26 18:11:13
BobF
As a companion to Sonar Platinum ...
2015/06/26 22:27:44
Willy Jones [Cakewalk]
Man that would be some serious work - P5 code hasn't seen the light of day in years. Sorry : /
 
Is there something or a part of P5's workflow that you are missing in SONAR?
 
 
2015/06/27 00:48:41
cryophonik
Willy Jones [Cakewalk]
Man that would be some serious work



Yup. Now, get on it.
 
 
2015/06/29 07:27:52
Spencer
Why?
 
I mean, I wasn't familiar with P5. Did it have modern automation facilities? If so, they should just add them to sonar, really. Otherwise, just can't see why.
2015/06/29 22:23:37
Brando
Spencer
Why?
 
I mean, I wasn't familiar with P5.

Key statement above. I was a sad, whipped puppy when P5 went away.
 
2015/06/29 23:58:50
mudgel
Me too. Things like matrix and step sequencer in sonar are no replacement.
2015/07/02 14:38:13
Spencer
well yeah the matrix view, piano roll and step sequencer in sonar just need to be finished. correct me if I'm wrong but the only advantage P5 had over sonar is that pattern based sequencing doesn't suck. routing is just as bad, act, automation etc same crap as sonar. therefore I'm still wondering why dig up that corpse and not give sonar the love it needs on the electronic music side instead, seems much more sensible to me. we're already paying a lot for this software, no reason we'd have to cough up more for what should be trivialities
2015/07/02 16:11:36
BobF
Willy Jones [Cakewalk]
Man that would be some serious work - P5 code hasn't seen the light of day in years. Sorry : /
 
Is there something or a part of P5's workflow that you are missing in SONAR?
 
 




For the things that P5 does, Sonar has no true equivalent.  It's a different, but complimentary animal.
 
I realize I haven't seen under the hood, but P5 almost runs well in Windows 8.1x64.  I can't imagine it would be anything humongous like a rewrite to get it spiffed up.
 
I'm of the opinion that P5 was introduced a bit ahead of its time.  Could be broader adoption now.
2015/07/02 18:33:55
Brando
What I would love to see is a stripped (no effects, minimal vsti's, loops) P5 released as a 64 bit VSTi (like FL Studio). Rewire is ok, but not as effectively integrated as a VSTi version would be. But you're right - P5 wouldn't need much changes feature wise and would be better than the SONAR in-built step sequencer, matrix, etc.
2015/07/02 18:41:38
Brando
Spencer
well yeah the matrix view, piano roll and step sequencer in sonar just need to be finished. correct me if I'm wrong but the only advantage P5 had over sonar is that pattern based sequencing doesn't suck. routing is just as bad, act, automation etc same crap as sonar. therefore I'm still wondering why dig up that corpse and not give sonar the love it needs on the electronic music side instead, seems much more sensible to me. we're already paying a lot for this software, no reason we'd have to cough up more for what should be trivialities

I think the OP was talking about another, separate product. No reason to buy if it doesn't meet the need. BTW, Trivialities are in the eye of the beholder. I don't need drum replacer, CCC, start page enhancements, I already own AAS Strum (full version), etc.
When you say "well yeah, the matrix view, piano roll ......just need to be finished" - that's also a big key. Just need to be finished.... Simple....they've been around a long time and don't come close to matching the functionality of their P5 counterparts.
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