Spencer
Why?

I mean, I wasn't familiar with P5. Did it have modern automation facilities? If so, they should just add them to sonar, really. Otherwise, just can't see why.

Spencer
well yeah the matrix view, piano roll and step sequencer in sonar just need to be finished. correct me if I'm wrong but the only advantage P5 had over sonar is that pattern based sequencing doesn't suck. routing is just as bad, act, automation etc same crap as sonar. therefore I'm still wondering why dig up that corpse and not give sonar the love it needs on the electronic music side instead, seems much more sensible to me. we're already paying a lot for this software, no reason we'd have to cough up more for what should be trivialities

I don't understand. I thought you weren't familiar with P5.

As much as I'd love to see P5v3 rise from the ashes, I know it's just wishful thinking.  The coolest "feature" of P5 wasn't even part of the software IMO - it was the user community.  That forum had some of the coolest people I've ever known online and was THE place to find really cool new music.  Ahhhhhh.....memories.  I need a beer. 

I think this thread is more wishful thinking than a serious request. There was a simplicity about P5 that nonetheless got the job done. It didn't need a lot of work to make it great.

mudgel
I don't understand. I thought you weren't familiar with P5.

That's right, and I went and informed myself. I came to the conclusion - again correct me if I'm wrong - that if you add the P-Seq, Synchron, and some matrix view enhancements to Sonar, then there's no reason to hope for a re-release of P5 anymore.
 
Personally, in this era of Nerve, MUX and such, I think modern automation facilities would help me make my electronic music a lot more than better sequencing. I can cope with it fine, whereas with the envelopes, I'm screwed, that's not something I can add-on to sonar like nerve and MUX.

Spencer

mudgel
I don't understand. I thought you weren't familiar with P5.

That's right, and I went and informed myself. I came to the conclusion - again correct me if I'm wrong - that if you add the P-Seq, Synchron, and some matrix view enhancements to Sonar, then there's no reason to hope for a re-release of P5 anymore.
 
Personally, in this era of Nerve, MUX and such, I think modern automation facilities would help me make my electronic music a lot more than better sequencing. I can cope with it fine, whereas with the envelopes, I'm screwed, that's not something I can add-on to sonar like nerve and MUX.

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Truthfully you are making this out to be bigger than it is. Everyone (else) participating in this thread understands it has a snowball's chance of happening. You can relax.

You're probably right, but with cakewalk's habit of making very strange decisions, you never know.

As the OP of the OP, let me say that the request is a serious one.  P5 is an awesome tool that complements Sonar quite well.  They have 90% of the code work done already (rough guess) if they don't go nuts on the initial rerelease.
 
Jeez ... if Rapture and Dim Pro can get a rerelease under a new name, surely P5 has a chance.
 
Besides, "You Are That Man" was awesome!!
 
Seriously - from what I've seen, there's a better chance of successfully tightening up P5 than getting Sonar able to really replace its functionality.
 
 

cryophonik

Willy Jones [Cakewalk]
Man that would be some serious work

Yup. Now, get on it.

 
Didn't some guys from Sweden already do that?

cryophonik
As much as I'd love to see P5v3 rise from the ashes, I know it's just wishful thinking.  The coolest "feature" of P5 wasn't even part of the software IMO - it was the user community.  That forum had some of the coolest people I've ever known online and was THE place to find really cool new music.  Ahhhhhh.....memories.  I need a beer. 

I missed the write a song in a specified style contests that they would have.  I came up with a couple of good tracks from those, even if my attempt at EDM ended up vastly different.

BobF

Willy Jones [Cakewalk]
Man that would be some serious work - P5 code hasn't seen the light of day in years. Sorry : /
 
Is there something or a part of P5's workflow that you are missing in SONAR?
 
 

For the things that P5 does, Sonar has no true equivalent.  It's a different, but complimentary animal.
 
I realize I haven't seen under the hood, but P5 almost runs well in Windows 8.1x64.  I can't imagine it would be anything humongous like a rewrite to get it spiffed up.
 
I'm of the opinion that P5 was introduced a bit ahead of its time.  Could be broader adoption now.

 
And if you really wanted to narrow your workflow to getting bits of a groove down perfectly, it's little brother Kinetic was  even a little better.
 
I definitely agree that P5 was ahead of its time.  I'd like to see it released with a more "Skylight" type windowing system and enjoy the delicious irony of the Bitwig fanboys whining about Cakewalk copying them.