Lol pete it's quite clear that there is a way to get the ASIO drivers working since it does entail a signal with the rock frog, it's just some tweak or bug I need to weed out to get the sound out of it (which I would much appreciate constructive solutions similar to that from Steve, Robert, etc). A better CPU and sound card is not going to do me any good being that I already have a brand new laptop so that is out of the question. Your computer diagnosis suggests that the patient needs bigger ears and a bigger brain because the ones it already has are too premature without questioning. That is literally a fallacy waiting to be expunged.


As for my current stance on the sound issue, I tried different input and output settings on the WDM driver and it ended up that one was so loud it made a huge screech sound and clipped way up so I'm not too sure what that was about. As far as the ASIO driver, I'm still unaware of how to get the sound out from the activity going along in the meter.

Ninja,

I'd like you to try something. And excuse me if I go through everything step by step. This is just so you'll have a check list as you go through the process of setting everything up. So, here we go....

1. Open GTP3 Select Options > Audio

2. Go to the Advanced Tab. Under playback and recording select ASIO. Make sure the check box next to Share Drivers With Other Programs is un-checked then Click Ok

3. A pop up will appear stating that you have to restart the program for the changes to take effect. Click Ok.

4. Close GTP3

5. Re-open GTP3. Go to Options > Audio.

6. Go to the Drivers tab and make sure only the drivers for the Rock Frog are highlighted. Any other deselect by clicking on them.

7. Go to the General tab and set the playback and recording timing masters to the Rock Frog.

8. In the same tab open the ASIO Panel by clicking on the ASIO Panel button.

9. In the next window there will be settings for latency. the ASIO panel will be Rock Frog specific. The settings might be called buffer size or something else. In either case you will want to buffer size to be small or set the setting to more device or what ever Rock Frog calls the ASIO setting. Click Ok when Done and OK again for the Audio Options dialog box.

10. This optional but recommended. Close GTP3 and reopen. I do this just to make sure the settings take. I usually go back and double check the settings as well.

11. Go to Console view and select tracks 1-16 by clicking on the 1-16 button. At the top of each channel strip under the track number is the input selection. If you click on it it will give you the options for your Rock Frog Inputs. Make sure that you have your desired input selected.

12. at the bottom of each channel strip is an output selection which is located right under the fader. You can select the Rock Frog or a sub group to patch the signal to. make your desired selection. Do this for every channel strip you intend to use for the recording.

13. Next click on the BUS button to show all your subs and AUX channel strips. Make sure that at the bottom of each one the output is the Rock Frog.

14. Next make sure the Audio engine in on. You can find this on the transport controls. It will be towards the center, second button to the right of the record button. It should be green in color when activated.

15. Attempt a recording and see if you get a monitored sound out. If so you have success. If not there is one more thing to try.

The one more thing is to disable the onboard (in-built) sound card. To do this right click on My Computer. Select properties. Next select the hardware tab and then click on Device Manager. In the next window look for the "+" next to Sound, video and game controllers. Click on the "+" sign to expand the menu. Find the on board sound card (usually RealTek AC97 or the like). and right click on it. Select disable and it will ask you if you are sure you want to do this. Click yes. It will go through it's process to shut the card down. When finished it will have a red "X" over the device. Close the window and then click ok on the system properties window. And retry GTP3 after closing and opening.

Let us know how you make out with this.

ORIGINAL: wastedninja

Lol pete it's quite clear that there is a way to get the ASIO drivers working since it does entail a signal with the rock frog, it's just some tweak or bug I need to weed out to get the sound out of it (which I would much appreciate constructive solutions similar to that from Steve, Robert, etc). A better CPU and sound card is not going to do me any good being that I already have a brand new laptop so that is out of the question. Your computer diagnosis suggests that the patient needs bigger ears and a bigger brain because the ones it already has are too premature without questioning. That is literally a fallacy waiting to be expunged.

As for my current stance on the sound issue, I tried different input and output settings on the WDM driver and it ended up that one was so loud it made a huge screech sound and clipped way up so I'm not too sure what that was about. As far as the ASIO driver, I'm still unaware of how to get the sound out from the activity going along in the meter.

I'm only trying to help and trying to save you from wasting a lot of time.
By the way, have you called Cakewalk's technical support? What did they have to tell you?

Holy crap. Thank you doc, robert, and steve for your guides/help. I'm now fully functional with my drivers and it has no delay anymore. I appreciate the help and support. I will save this guide for further reference. =D


edit:there is a slight bit of clipping still, any suggestions on which latency setting would be most efficient?

ORIGINAL: wastedninja

Holy crap. Thank you doc, robert, and steve for your guides/help. I'm now fully functional with my drivers and it has no delay anymore. I appreciate the help and support. I will save this guide for further reference. =D

That's great news Ninja - glad you're up and running

That's good to see, Ninja.
Are you using the ASIO drivers?
The early USB devices like this were pretty weak. It looks like the Frog has been developed more, and may be promising for people looking for portability.
I have to admit, I was sceptical at first, but the specs looked potenetial, so it seemed worthwhile to see what it can do before we suggest you abandon it. Glad to see it worked out.
As for the clipping, try to determine whether it is buffer related (usually a rhythmic ticking), or actual clipping (directly related to louder notes).
Try turning the volume knob(s) down on your guitar, and check your levels wherever you have a meter.
Is your latency setting in ms or buffer size?
If the ticking is related to latency (and buffer size), try the next larger increment. It can be a bit of trial and error to find the right balance on a particular system.
When recording at low latency, keep effects to a minimum, especially reverbs.
Once you are done recording, you can increase the latency, and start adding effects. Latency is not an issue when mixing, and this gives your computer more room to breath.

Yeah the ASIO driver is functioning very well. It looks as though when I turned my knobs on guitar down, it didn't clip as much although I do enjoy having a much fuller sound. Then again I will try using cleantone then adding effects later. I tried fiddling with the buffer settings on the ASIO driver and on the program and as it stands none of it made a difference be it a large or small change. The guitar volume made the difference.

The only other 2 questions I have now are:

1. When recording a harmony or lead over rhythm track, is it best to do it all on one track or 2 separate tracks?


2. After recording 1 track or 2 separate tracks, how do I go about transferring one track or 2 separate tracks together to a playable mp3 or wav file?

Use separate tracks, then you'll have full flexibility when it comes to mixing; panning volume, adding effects etc.

When you've got your mix how you want it go to;

1) Edit
2) Select all
3) Export audio
4) Choose 44100 sample rate, 16 bit depth, stereo riff wav file
5) Choose a destination on your hard-drive for the file and hit export

The Wav file is best for burning to CD, and can also be converted to an MP3

Have fun!

AS a follow on to James reply. Check out CDex as a wav to MP3 converter. It uses a simple drag and drop interface to convert the files

I just bought the GTP3 and was having the same problems as below. I bought more RAM for my computer as well as an extrenal audio interface (M-Audio Fast Track). I have all of it connected and all is working great when I use GTP3, but when I go to record all sound is gone and the clock on the record timer goes about a hundred miles a minute. I have tried everything I can think of. Can someone Help!!!!