There is no effing guitar player alive today that makes me want to quit ...
 
I don't care who you are talking about
 
The Music Bizznezz and what you have to do to even make a living ...well, that's another story
 
Kenny

kennywtelejazz
There is no effing guitar player alive today that makes me want to quit ...
 
I don't care who you are talking about
 
The Music Bizznezz and what you have to do to even make a living ...well, that's another story
 
Kenny

Yeah. But the end point in the video is pointing out that the kids are good, but they dont have the experience we old farts have. We can do stuff they can't in many years!

stratman70
You really want to toss it go listen to Tina S. Youtube. Videos when she was 13 and 14 will blow your mind. She is now 19 I think. She's french. Classically trained plays all the Vai and Satriani stuff. Does a great job on Gary Moore and David Gilmour also. really plays anything.............Amazing!IMHO and I have been playing for over 30 years.
 
I am no shredder, more blues, R&B and R&R....But I always enjoy talent!

I dont like Tina S. She hasn't uploaded a video in ages.

Oh. I was only kidding about not liking Tina S.

Fascinating info in that video.  How many musical child prodigies have continued on into adulthood with their craft? I mean, it does seem like they just disappear into obscurity.  I never see some 30 year old that was a child prodigy that has continued to improve to super human levels.  Where are those people?
 
It's like there's a wall, and you can get to it fast as a child prodigy, or you can take your time and get there as an adult...but there doesn't seem to be a trajectory where they just get better, faster, better, faster, better, faster, without limit.  
 
Or does the illuminati snatch them?  

Voda La Void
Fascinating info in that video.  How many musical child prodigies have continued on into adulthood with their craft? I mean, it does seem like they just disappear into obscurity.  I never see some 30 year old that was a child prodigy that has continued to improve to super human levels.  Where are those people?
 
It's like there's a wall, and you can get to it fast as a child prodigy, or you can take your time and get there as an adult...but there doesn't seem to be a trajectory where they just get better, faster, better, faster, better, faster, without limit.  
 
Or does the illuminati snatch them?  

Just had to set your post as helpful. l am of that same understanding. And something a child cant get is that true experience. Playing guitars, listening to music and writing music for more than 15 years.
 
Maybe many of these children has the “wrong” reason to play. To make the one YouTube video with perfect playthrough of a song is more important than creating the moment every time you play? And creating own music is not in their mind?

Jarsve,
 
Great thread, and hits some important points as we get our egos ground into the dirt listening to some kid who is way technically beyond where we will ever be.
 
Hard NOT to compare ourselves with other guitarists, something we seem to get dragged into once we commit to the axe. Some artists like Steve Miller say they never listen to any other guitarist to keep them on track of what they are doing.
 
Pianist Horowitz did live concerts and young pianists actually went out and committed suicide over the depression that for all their work and sacrifice, they would never be as good.
 
There is as you say a certain amount of experience or something that comes with the ages. You can’t really sing the blues until you have lived the blues. The young lady is fantastic enough to get me depressed as well with the flawless gymnastics, but there are some motifs that lack a sense of maturity or reality. There because they can be played but something missing for awhile.
 
I came from a blood line of accomplished classical pianists. My training started late at 7 years old, but was harsh, brutal to catch up with lost time. Hours of daily practice. Could knock off anything Chopin or Rachmaninov could play. Trained monkey for the delight of guests. Always ready to dazzle.
 
Something however broke the connection and gets to the question of where are they now. We have long known that too many of the Julliard child prodigies end up forked up soon in life and lose their savant abilities from the artificial overkill.
 
Me, I can barely drool on a keyboard now. Big fall from grace and don’t have any idea how it happened.
 
Thanks Jarsve for opening this dialog.
 
John
 

Voda La Void
Fascinating info in that video.  How many musical child prodigies have continued on into adulthood with their craft? I mean, it does seem like they just disappear into obscurity.  I never see some 30 year old that was a child prodigy that has continued to improve to super human levels.  Where are those people?
 
It's like there's a wall, and you can get to it fast as a child prodigy, or you can take your time and get there as an adult...but there doesn't seem to be a trajectory where they just get better, faster, better, faster, better, faster, without limit.  
 
Or does the illuminati snatch them?  

 
Parroting what your teacher tells you to do does not make one an artist.  There's no amount of creativity in doing that.

eph221

Voda La Void
Fascinating info in that video.  How many musical child prodigies have continued on into adulthood with their craft? I mean, it does seem like they just disappear into obscurity.  I never see some 30 year old that was a child prodigy that has continued to improve to super human levels.  Where are those people?
 
It's like there's a wall, and you can get to it fast as a child prodigy, or you can take your time and get there as an adult...but there doesn't seem to be a trajectory where they just get better, faster, better, faster, better, faster, without limit.  
 
Or does the illuminati snatch them?  

 
Parroting what your teacher tells you to do does not make one an artist.  There's no amount of creativity in doing that.

I completely agree.  But I'm talking more about the technical abilities in performance and complexity.  One might think if a 10 year old can play like a 30 year experienced guitarist, then that same 10 year old must perform at super human levels when they have 30 years under their belt.  You might expect that technical trajectory to take them to places the rest of us can't really access.  Why don't they play these intricate pieces twice or three times as fast, or perform melodic runs that are too complicated for most of us to grasp, requiring us to slow down their music just to try to understand it?
 
But none of that exists, apparently.  In anyone, no matter how slow or fast they have learned their craft.  Just seems to compliment the observations and points made in the video.  

hello,
 
I wonder how we would all respond if there was no video, or if there was no mention of the children's age. 
 
Or what if we did a blind test to see if anyone could discern a guitarists age just by listening to the music and not having the visual or textual cues.  (did I just repeat myself?)
 
I do remember seeing a documentary on an 18 year old male guitar prodigy.  He was being paraded around the trade shows to all the guitar manufacturers booths looking for a "sponsor."  He truly was an exceptional guitarist, and a great singer too.  It was most telling when one of the industry folks mentioned that he was a prodigy, but once he turns 21 he is merely another good guitar player.
 
jqs