Keni


Hi benstat...

OK... I've got it installed on my DAW with it pointing to Photoshop 7 on this machine (my graphics WS (GWS?))...

I first uninstalled Panup's Mod that I use...

Then ran and setup Skinner...

Now I'd like to re-install Panup's mod and then edit from there... Is that a can do?

Keni

Hi Keni,
 
Yes, you should be able to do that. Here's a rough idea of what to do:
 
1. Re-apply Panu's mod
2. Open Skin Editor
3. Click the 'Import Skin' button in the toolbar
4. The open file dialog appears - navigate to TTSRES90.dll in the SONAR folder (the one that was modded in step 1)
5. Select it and click OK.
6. Skin Editor will import Panu's graphics from the dll (well, as much as it can anyway).
7. Make your edits, then apply the skin, BUT SELECT MERGE, NOT REPLACE when prompted.
8. Save the skin as a new .ssk file in case you need it later.
9. If you want to make more edits later, then always remember to merge when applying.
 
Why do you need to merge? Panu's mods change more graphics than the Skin Editor currently supports. If you choose replace when applying your changes, then you'll lose the extra bits that Panu's mods have and the Skin Editor doesn't. This won't always be necessary. Later updates will allow Skin Editor to support all the graphics of Panu's mods. It's just a temporary workaround for beta 1. I hope that makes sense?
 
Thanks,
Ben

Keni

djtrailmixxx

Keni


Hmmm...

I just realized... I'm gonna have a hard time with this. I have no graphics programs on my DAW as I do my graphics work on this machine (the one I do my browsing on as well)....

We'll see how this goes... they are networked.....  ;-)

If you need a pretty powerful tool for free, check out Paint.net or GIMP. That way you wont have to move from machine to machine.

Paint.net

Thanks... I just downloaded and tried both with no luck...

They both install and work fine, but I get an assortment of error messages (different for each) when I try to use Skinner to open the pic in the editor...

Keni

Hi again Keni,
Would you mind PM'ing me with details of the errors? I'm surprised that neither of them work with the Skin Editor. Basically, the Skin Editor just runs the image editing program with the following command line:
 
c:\Program Files\My Image Editor\MyImageEditor.exe tempimagefile.png
 
In the above example it runs MyImageEditor.exe and tells it to open tempimagefile.png. So any program that can open like this should work, which should be most of them.
Thanks,
Ben

I can no longer see which bus I selected. All I did was change the active track background in the trackstrips option. I then did a restore, but I STILL can't tell which bus I select, because ACTIVE bus colors no longer change from light grey to dark grey like it used to.  I wish I knew what Sonar file that I could have backed up before using this software. 
I suppose restore = restore back to what the Skin editor thinks how Sonar used to be.  Its not truly and undo back to the original Sonar.
Now what do I do?

gtgarner


I can no longer see which bus I selected. All I did was change the active track background in the trackstrips option. I then did a restore, but I STILL can't tell which bus I select, because ACTIVE bus colors no longer change from light grey to dark grey like it used to.  I wish I knew what Sonar file that I could have backed up before using this software. 
I suppose restore = restore back to what the Skin editor thinks how Sonar used to be.  Its not truly and undo back to the original Sonar.
Now what do I do?

dont worry,this is an easy fix..just wait to talk to ben about it..but in the mean time,,dont worry..you can change it back very easily.

gtgarner


I can no longer see which bus I selected. All I did was change the active track background in the trackstrips option. I then did a restore, but I STILL can't tell which bus I select, because ACTIVE bus colors no longer change from light grey to dark grey like it used to.  I wish I knew what Sonar file that I could have backed up before using this software. 
I suppose restore = restore back to what the Skin editor thinks how Sonar used to be.  Its not truly and undo back to the original Sonar.
Now what do I do?

Hi gtgarner,
Sorry to hear about your problems. Clicking restore should do the trick, and yes, it should restore SONAR back to its original state, by copying the backup it took of the original, unmodified resource file (TTSRES90.dll) back to the SONAR folder.
Take a look in:
c:\Program Files\Benstat\SONAR Plus Skin Editor\Backup
There should be a DLL file in there. That's the backup of the original copy of TTSRES90.dll that the Skin Editor took when it first ran (although it's been renamed to something else). If the restore feature isn't working for some reason, manually copy that file back to your SONAR folder, and rename it to TTSRES90.dll.
If that still doesn't do the trick, let me know and I'll email you a copy of the original file. I'll need to know which version of SONAR you use - 32 or 64 bit.
Sorry for the inconvenience. Perhaps I should have suggested that everyone make a manual backup copy of TTSRES90.dll first. If you're reading this, and want to make a backup of the original file, you can either back up TTSRES90.dll in the SONAR folder, or if you've already skinned SONAR, make a backup of the dll stored in the folder mentioned above. If anything goes wrong, copy the backup into your SONAR folder and rename it to TTSRES90.dll.
Thanks,
Ben
 
ps. If you used any of Panu's Sonar Mods, you will already have a file called 'TTSRES90 Backup.dll' in your SONAR folder. Rename that to TTSRES90.dll and that should fix it too.
 

benstat

gtgarner


I can no longer see which bus I selected. All I did was change the active track background in the trackstrips option. I then did a restore, but I STILL can't tell which bus I select, because ACTIVE bus colors no longer change from light grey to dark grey like it used to.  I wish I knew what Sonar file that I could have backed up before using this software. 
I suppose restore = restore back to what the Skin editor thinks how Sonar used to be.  Its not truly and undo back to the original Sonar.
Now what do I do?

Hi gtgarner,
Sorry to hear about your problems. Don't worry, as chuckebaby says, it's an easy fix. Clicking restore should do the trick, and yes, it should restore SONAR back to its original state, by copying the backup it took of the original, unmodified SONAR resource file (TTSRES90.dll) back to the SONAR folder.
Take a look in:
c:\Program Files\Benstat\SONAR Plus Skin Editor\Backups
There should be a DLL file in there. That's the backup of the original copy of TTSRES90.dll that the Skin Editor took when it first ran (although it's been renamed to something else). If the restore feature isn't working for some reason, manually copy that file back to your SONAR folder, and rename it to TTSRES90.dll.
If that still doesn't do the trick, let me know and I'll email you a copy of the original file. I'll need to know which version of SONAR you use - 32 or 64 bit.
Sorry for the inconvenience. Perhaps I should have suggested that everyone make a manual backup copy of TTSRES90.dll first. If you're reading this, and want to make a backup of the original file, you can either backup TTSRES90.dll in the SONAR folder, or if you've already skinned SONAR, make a backup of the dll stored in the Skin Editor folder mentioned above. If anything goes wrong, copy the backup into your SONAR folder and rename it to TTSRES90.dll. Then you should be back to a normal again.
Thanks,
Ben
 
ps. If you used any of Panu's Sonar Mods, you will already have a file called 'TTSRES90 Backup.dll' in your SONAR folder. Rename that to TTSRES90.dll and that should fix it too.
 

gtgarner


I suppose restore = restore back to what the Skin editor thinks how Sonar used to be.  Its not truly and undo back to the original Sonar.
Now what do I do?

No, restore does restore it back to its original state.

Hi Ben,

I am playing with the Skin editor. I have edited an image (Console view/Master-wide) in PS CS4. I used Brush tool. Saved the image. In Skin editor, I pressed Apply and Open (Merge option), but nothing has changed in Sonar.

What am I doing wrong?

Thx. 

benstat

Keni


Hi benstat...

OK... I've got it installed on my DAW with it pointing to Photoshop 7 on this machine (my graphics WS (GWS?))...

I first uninstalled Panup's Mod that I use...

Then ran and setup Skinner...

Now I'd like to re-install Panup's mod and then edit from there... Is that a can do?

Keni

Hi Keni,
 
Yes, you should be able to do that. Here's a rough idea of what to do:
 
1. Re-apply Panu's mod
2. Open Skin Editor
3. Click the 'Import Skin' button in the toolbar
4. The open file dialog appears - navigate to TTSRES90.dll in the SONAR folder (the one that was modded in step 1)
5. Select it and click OK.
6. Skin Editor will import Panu's graphics from the dll (well, as much as it can anyway).
7. Make your edits, then apply the skin, BUT SELECT MERGE, NOT REPLACE when prompted.
8. Save the skin as a new .ssk file in case you need it later.
9. If you want to make more edits later, then always remember to merge when applying.
 
Why do you need to merge? Panu's mods change more graphics than the Skin Editor currently supports. If you choose replace when applying your changes, then you'll lose the extra bits that Panu's mods have and the Skin Editor doesn't. This won't always be necessary. Later updates will allow Skin Editor to support all the graphics of Panu's mods. It's just a temporary workaround for beta 1. I hope that makes sense?
 
Thanks,
Ben

Thanks for the complete instructions Ben...

Much appreciated... along with the allowances you've already brought into the Skinner... I'm a bit confues by the graphics but I'm sure I'll get used to them as I go...

Right now my bigger problem is with getting a gfx editor working with it.

Using my other machine's Photoshop via LAN has a few issues keeping it from working. The focus of that is  it tries to open Photoshop7 on my DAW when I install Skinner on the DAW (which it can't do) and if I install Skinner on the gfx ws, it can't run not finding some ms......dll which I'm guessing is part of the netxxxxx stuff that we need for Skinner to run... the GFX WS is only a win2k SP4 which I'm still reluctant to abandon... ;-)

So I've installed both Paint.Net and GIMP and both appear to be working but yield error messages when attempting to edit any graphic...

Paint.Net  gives a dialog X The image type is not recognized, and cannot be opened
Even tho it has support for bmp/png and transparancy as required...

GIMP gives numerous error messages (only displaying the first few and giving notice that there are more). they begin with:

GIMP Message
Opening 'C:\Users|Keni|AppData\Local\Temp\SONAR' failed: No such file or directory

GIMP Message
Opening 'C:\Program Files\Benstat\SONAR Plus Skin Editor\Plus' failed: No such file or directory

GIMP Message
Opening 'C:\Program Files\Benstat\SONAR Plus Skin Editor\Skin' failed: No such file or directory

Too many error messages!
Messages are redirected to stderr

Watcha think?

Keni

rainmaker1011


Hi Ben,

I am playing with the Skin editor. I have edited an image (Console view/Master-wide) in PS CS4. I used Brush tool. Saved the image. In Skin editor, I pressed Apply and Open (Merge option), but nothing has changed in Sonar.

What am I doing wrong?

Thx. 

Hmm, strange. Does the edited image show correctly in the Skin Editor itself (not just in your image editor)? I assume so. Try the following:
1. Save your skin (it will save as a .ssk file).
2. Close the Skin Editor.
3. Open it again.
4. Open the skin you saved in step 1.
5. Re-apply it.
I'd be interested to know what happens (I'm keeping an eye out for bugs)...