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2011/05/14 12:58:00
benstat
chuckebaby


gtgarner


I can no longer see which bus I selected. All I did was change the active track background in the trackstrips option. I then did a restore, but I STILL can't tell which bus I select, because ACTIVE bus colors no longer change from light grey to dark grey like it used to.  I wish I knew what Sonar file that I could have backed up before using this software. 
I suppose restore = restore back to what the Skin editor thinks how Sonar used to be.  Its not truly and undo back to the original Sonar.
Now what do I do?


dont worry,this is an easy fix..just wait to talk to ben about it..but in the mean time,,dont worry..you can change it back very easily.

Hi gtgarner. Did you resolve the problem? Can I offer any more assistance?
2011/05/14 13:14:13
benstat
Keni


benstat


Keni


Hi benstat...

OK... I've got it installed on my DAW with it pointing to Photoshop 7 on this machine (my graphics WS (GWS?))...

I first uninstalled Panup's Mod that I use...

Then ran and setup Skinner...

Now I'd like to re-install Panup's mod and then edit from there... Is that a can do?

Keni

Hi Keni,

Yes, you should be able to do that. Here's a rough idea of what to do:

1. Re-apply Panu's mod
2. Open Skin Editor
3. Click the 'Import Skin' button in the toolbar
4. The open file dialog appears - navigate to TTSRES90.dll in the SONAR folder (the one that was modded in step 1)
5. Select it and click OK.
6. Skin Editor will import Panu's graphics from the dll (well, as much as it can anyway).
7. Make your edits, then apply the skin, BUT SELECT MERGE, NOT REPLACE when prompted.
8. Save the skin as a new .ssk file in case you need it later.
9. If you want to make more edits later, then always remember to merge when applying.

Why do you need to merge? Panu's mods change more graphics than the Skin Editor currently supports. If you choose replace when applying your changes, then you'll lose the extra bits that Panu's mods have and the Skin Editor doesn't. This won't always be necessary. Later updates will allow Skin Editor to support all the graphics of Panu's mods. It's just a temporary workaround for beta 1. I hope that makes sense?

Thanks,
Ben


Thanks for the complete instructions Ben...

Much appreciated... along with the allowances you've already brought into the Skinner... I'm a bit confues by the graphics but I'm sure I'll get used to them as I go...

Right now my bigger problem is with getting a gfx editor working with it.

Using my other machine's Photoshop via LAN has a few issues keeping it from working. The focus of that is  it tries to open Photoshop7 on my DAW when I install Skinner on the DAW (which it can't do) and if I install Skinner on the gfx ws, it can't run not finding some ms......dll which I'm guessing is part of the netxxxxx stuff that we need for Skinner to run... the GFX WS is only a win2k SP4 which I'm still reluctant to abandon... ;-)

So I've installed both Paint.Net and GIMP and both appear to be working but yield error messages when attempting to edit any graphic...

Paint.Net  gives a dialog X The image type is not recognized, and cannot be opened
Even tho it has support for bmp/png and transparancy as required...

GIMP gives numerous error messages (only displaying the first few and giving notice that there are more). they begin with:

GIMP Message
Opening 'C:\Users|Keni|AppData\Local\Temp\SONAR' failed: No such file or directory

GIMP Message
Opening 'C:\Program Files\Benstat\SONAR Plus Skin Editor\Plus' failed: No such file or directory

GIMP Message
Opening 'C:\Program Files\Benstat\SONAR Plus Skin Editor\Skin' failed: No such file or directory

Too many error messages!
Messages are redirected to stderr

Watcha think?

Keni

Hi Keni,
Thanks for the detailed information. Firstly, I'm afraid the Skin Editor won't work on a Win2K PC. It needs XP or above, so I'm sorry to say that using it on your gfx ws is out of the question.
I think I'm going to have to install Paint.NET and GIMP and try them out. Panu said he had GIMP working OK, but let me take a look and see what happens.
I assume you installed them on your DAW, yes? If so, try running the Skin Editor Setup Wizard again (it's in the Tools tab of the toolbar). Make sure you're selecting the correct executable file for the image editor. For example, I use Photoshop Elements. It comes with 3 executable files in total, but the one I need is called PhotoshopElementsEditor.exe. Might be worth experimenting.
Finally, can you send me a copy of the following file:
c:\users\keni\appdata\local\benstat\SonarPlusSkinEditor.exe[lots of random chars here]\0.9.2.0\user.config
It contains the settings used by the Skin Editor, and may help me to diagnose/fix the problem.
Thanks,
Ben
 
2011/05/14 13:24:15
stickman393
Out of respect to Cakewalk, shouldn't we be having this discussion over on the Sonar Mods forum?
2011/05/14 13:39:43
benstat
stickman393


Out of respect to Cakewalk, shouldn't we be having this discussion over on the Sonar Mods forum?


Agreed. I would prefer to answer questions and hear feedback and bug reports over there.
2011/05/14 13:40:09
rainmaker1011
benstat


rainmaker1011


Hi Ben,

I am playing with the Skin editor. I have edited an image (Console view/Master-wide) in PS CS4. I used Brush tool. Saved the image. In Skin editor, I pressed Apply and Open (Merge option), but nothing has changed in Sonar.

What am I doing wrong?

Thx. 

Hmm, strange. Does the edited image show correctly in the Skin Editor itself (not just in your image editor)? I assume so. Try the following:
1. Save your skin (it will save as a .ssk file).
2. Close the Skin Editor.
3. Open it again.
4. Open the skin you saved in step 1.
5. Re-apply it.
  I'd be interested to know what happens (I'm keeping an eye out for bugs)...

Did this but with no avail. Nothing has changed. And yes, the edited image shows correctly in the skin editor. 

Should I try to install the Skin Editor using "Run as administrator" ? Although I have UAC set to "off"...
2011/05/14 13:42:58
benstat
You shouldn't need to run the Skin Editor as Administrator because it when it runs, it tells Windows that it wants to run like that anyway (you should see the security prompt when it starts). Could you perhaps PM the skin to me? 
 
Could we continue this over on the SONAR Mods forum please?
 
[Edit: just re-read you post. I see you have UAC turned off. That could be the problem. Yes - try running as Administrator]
2011/05/14 14:18:44
rainmaker1011
Ben, posted on Sonar Mods forum... ;)
2011/05/14 14:24:20
benstat
rainmaker1011


Ben, posted on Sonar Mods forum... ;)

Thanks Marek. I think it's better to handle questions and problems over there instead.
2011/05/14 14:59:41
Zonno
stickman393


Out of respect to Cakewalk, shouldn't we be having this discussion over on the Sonar Mods forum?
 
You have a point there,
but on the other hand: I don't see how discussing a very valuable addition to Cakewalk software on their forum can be disrespectfull.
2011/05/14 15:52:14
gtgarner
benstat


chuckebaby


gtgarner


I can no longer see which bus I selected. All I did was change the active track background in the trackstrips option. I then did a restore, but I STILL can't tell which bus I select, because ACTIVE bus colors no longer change from light grey to dark grey like it used to.  I wish I knew what Sonar file that I could have backed up before using this software. 
I suppose restore = restore back to what the Skin editor thinks how Sonar used to be.  Its not truly and undo back to the original Sonar.
Now what do I do?


dont worry,this is an easy fix..just wait to talk to ben about it..but in the mean time,,dont worry..you can change it back very easily.

Hi gtgarner. Did you resolve the problem? Can I offer any more assistance?

Unfortunately the problem is still there.  I followed the instructions. Concerning backup and the copy and replace.  I'm running the 64 bit version.
 
I've moved my comments over to the Sonar Mods forum.
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