@ Jon - maybe remove the [solved] again from the thread???
 

Rob[atSound-Rehab]
@ Jon - maybe remove the [solved] again from the thread???
 

That's weird - I never put it there in the first place! Must've been the forum gremlins.
I removed it...

I now believe this is definitely an oversight.
 
I find if I set the selection start and stop points with the Selection Module in the Control Bar on the Time Line to select the time range, tracks don't unexpectedly get selected.  However, if I use the mouse to select the time range on the Time Line, ALL tracks get selected.
 
Very inconsistent.  Previously, either way would not change the tracks that were selected (which fits my workflow much better).  My opinion is that SONAR should not be making the assumption that I want to select ALL tracks if I make a selection using the mouse in the Time Line.  The Time Line should be used to select time, not tracks.

kellerpj
I now believe this is definitely an oversight.
 
I find if I set the selection start and stop points with the Selection Module in the Control Bar on the Time Line to select the time range, tracks don't unexpectedly get selected.  However, if I use the mouse to select the time range on the Time Line, ALL tracks get selected.
 
Very inconsistent.  Previously, either way would not change the tracks that were selected (which fits my workflow much better).  My opinion is that SONAR should not be making the assumption that I want to select ALL tracks if I make a selection using the mouse in the Time Line.  The Time Line should be used to select time, not tracks.

100% agree. Major change for long time Sonar users. I try to time select the clip itself now, but still use the timeline by habit from time to time and end up selecting and deleting data by accident. Don't really like to have to rethink my workflow, but I guess I have to move along with the software changes....

kellerpj
Previously, either way would not change the tracks that were selected (which fits my workflow much better). 

Exactly!
 

My opinion is that SONAR should not be making the assumption that I want to select ALL tracks if I make a selection using the mouse in the Time Line.  The Time Line should be used to select time, not tracks.

I also agree 100%

jbraner
 
That's weird - I never put it there in the first place! Must've been the forum gremlins.
I removed it...

 
I put it there after reading post #7, which appeared to indicate the original question was answered. However it seems subsequent posts have uncovered other issues, particularly the difference between using the Select box in the control module vs. selecting directly in the timeline. I suspect it may have occurred with ripple editing updates but don't know if "fallout" from implementing ripple editing, or a bug.

Rob[atSound-Rehab]
for example automation gets deleted when I wanted to delete a clip from a take lane. I wonder why not more people have complained about this yet.

Are you sure "Select track envelopes with clips" isn't checked in the Track View options menu? If unchecked, I can move, slip-edit, delete, etc. clips in take lanes (or the parent if folded) and the automation remains intact.

kellerpj
The Time Line should be used to select time, not tracks.

Exactly. Current implementation is a rather annoying workflow speed bump. 

I'm glad I brought this up - I was thinking it was just me that found it annoying... ;-)

Anderton

Rob[atSound-Rehab]
for example automation gets deleted when I wanted to delete a clip from a take lane. I wonder why not more people have complained about this yet.

Are you sure "Select track envelopes with clips" isn't checked in the Track View options menu? If unchecked, I can move, slip-edit, delete, etc. clips in take lanes (or the parent if folded) and the automation remains intact.

OK, learned something here because I did not know this option was there and hence has always been checked in any project I did.
 
Still it works differently when time range selecting on take lane T1 and T2. On T1 automation does get selected, on T2 it does not. That's an inconsistency / bug.
 

jbraner

kellerpj
Previously, either way would not change the tracks that were selected (which fits my workflow much better). 

Exactly!
 

My opinion is that SONAR should not be making the assumption that I want to select ALL tracks if I make a selection using the mouse in the Time Line.  The Time Line should be used to select time, not tracks.

I also agree 100%

 
couldn't agree more !!!