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Anderton
Anyone who...
May one infer that whining about "anyone" you don't see eye to eye with is more helpful than whining about a DAW?
LOL.
I differentiate between people who whine and people who make constructive criticisms that move things forward. For example, your post #50 wasn't whining. It was analysis that may or may not end up being right, but either way, advanced the conversation.
But as dubdisciple pointed out, "...users who are annoyed that you cannot export patterns to piano roll." There's been all this complaining
about a problem that doesn't exist. I don't see how that helps anyone. In fact, it moves things
backward because now people won't take advantage of something that could be helpful because they don't think it exists.
For example, think of the hundreds of man-hours that have been spent complaining about Ableton Live not supporting VST3...thread after thread after thread in multiple forums, stretching back years. "Oh, I can't
possibly make music because I
must use this VST3 plug-in so I guess I'll have to change DAWs." So spend $49 on DDMF's Metaplugin, load it as a VST 2.4, and load VST3 plug-ins into it. Problem solved.
If those people had remembered their priority is to make music, I would
like to think they would have stopped complaining, prioritized making music, found the solution, and realized that spending $49 is a hell of a lot less expensive and disruptive than switching DAWs.
As to "In theory one could make any genre using any DAW. However, some DAWs are going to be exponentially more frustrating to the point of 'why bother?'," the reason why there isn't just one DAW is because each one has strengths and weaknesses. But they also all have demos, so if someone picks one that's exponentially frustrating to them, I don't think you can blame the DAW but the choice the user made. I would never use Sonar to do a loop-based live performance, but I didn't complain about it. Instead, I learned Live. People complain that Studio One doesn't do surround; it never has and I doubt it ever will. So what? Download CbB
for free, export your stems, and mix in surround (with an excellent surround implementation...not that more than a handful of people ever used it). Or, spend your time complaining that SO4 doesn't do surround. I have definite opinions as to which will further the music-making process.
To me, people who complain are wasting time that could have been spent coming up with a solution, a workaround, or making music with the tools they have. People who do constructive criticism...well, they're the people directly responsible for a lot of the improvements that have happened in DAWs over the years. In forums, AFAIK they are the signal; the whiners are the noise. A good signal-to-noise ratio fosters a better environment for debating the pros and cons of actual improvements, because there's no way everyone's pet FR is going to be implemented.