Afraid I can't agree completely, but your first point is spot on.
Jeff Evans
fireberd
Usually, as long as the device its attached to is properly grounded the attached device will be too.
Still not good advice. Lifting the earth connection on any equipment is just downright dangerous. You cannot rely on the audio earth connection between an earthed and non earthed equipment either to provide a solid ground.
Here's the thing, and neither Jeff nor I seem to be saying it well. It is NEVER good advice to suggest bypassing a safety ground. If two pieces of gear are connected, via shield, when only one is connected to earth ground then it is true that both are grounded. But you are now depending on that shield to carry a lethal current to ground, and more than likely it will fail and you will carry that current to ground.
It seems that everyone who understands grounding and shielding assumes everyone else does too. That's why I will often jump in when posts suggest defeating safety ground. To someone that is more musician than electrical engineer that might sound great. But they don't understand the safety implications.
That's why I get so insistent on the subject. I'm not trying to start - or sustain - a pi$$ing contest!
Part of the confusion stems from our mis-use of the terms ground and common. Ground is considered this mystical point where no amount of current flowing in or out can change the potential - but wait, that definition is missing a word - "difference". A potential difference can not exist at a single point, so we need to know with respect to what (or where.)
All of which is digging deeper than necessary. Always connect safety grounds and you don't have to think about it.
Jeff EvansA much better and safer way is to leave all items grounded, and if a ground loop appears then solve it by lifting the earth connections in some of the audio connections, not the power.
Also true, although I'd go one step further, consider "Aggressor" and "Victim" and treat accordingly.
Embarrassing tale I've told too many times to care any more - back in the bad old days I had this lovely Tangent console that I was rebuilding. For grins I decided to try the "huge copper bar" approach that I knew some of my heroes were using to quiet their consoles. It was expensive, tedious, time consuming, and dang, it worked. It worked really well!
Turns out we were all fixing the right problem with the wrong solution! As part of the huge copper bar solution we were terminating the shields outside the chassis. Yes, I felt kind of dumb. And yes, I was able to re-sell that copper bar, for a tad more than I paid for it, but I'll never get the hours spent drilling and threading!
Jeff EvansUsing balanced audio connections wherever possible is a great start.
And herein lies maybe the biggest source of confusion. Every source can be treated as balanced. And all you need to connect a balanced source to a balanced input is two wires, although it helps tremendously if they are twisted.
That leaves the input as the potential (excuse the pun) problem. If it is a single ended input you will need to do something to make it differential - you can add a transformer (ideal, but expensive) or you can add an active device. That's it! Meaning there really is no reason not to use balanced interconnections everywhere.
Jeff EvansNot only do you get great noise rejection with balanced connections but a 6 dB volume boost too for free.
Part 2 of the great audio myth - a balanced connection is not dependent on signal symmetry, nor does it require that both input pins be driven at all. The ONLY requirement for a balanced connection is that both input pins see a equal impedance to ground. That's the definition of a balanced input. And that means that the only requirement for the source is that it presents an equal impedance to ground on both legs.
Jeff EvansThere are also ways to connect non balanced outputs into balanced inputs. e.g. by wiring into the balanced input using the balanced connections only and not the balanced inputs earth. This can also solve many hum and noise problems too.
I think you are saying that correctly, but without a picture it could be confusing. I usually suggest folks read several Rane Notes to see the pretty pictures. Here are my go-to references:
Sound System InterconnectionsGrounding and ShieldingWhy Not WyePin 1 Revisited(these next two get a little deep, but are still worth skimming)
Shield Current Induced Noise Considerations in Grounding and Shielding Computer-Controlled Audio Devices Jeff EvansPlugging your entire studio into a single power circuit is also a good thing to do. It puts all the earths in the system at the same potential and will minimise ground loops. Your entire studio will not draw enough power to trip the breaker either.
This is great for really small systems, but it can cause as many problems as it causes, especially since most folks will stop there, assuming this is the cure-all.
All of this goes back to my previous assertion about safety - those of us with experience and education need to do a better job separating fact from fiction. We need to stop assuming everyone understands this stuff as well as we do. That's no different than assuming everyone has studied harmony, counterpoint, and orchestration when discussing sample libraries!
So we need to choose our words carefully, and sometimes we need to type a lot.
And now our regularly scheduled aside:
fireberdMy biggest audio challenge was shielding (RF Shielding) a studio in Kansas City, Mo (Big K Records) that was 1 block from an AM radio station transmitter site.
Wow does that bring back bad memories - in a good way! My biggest challenge was a combo (AM/FM) co-located with the AM transmitter. I was still a wee lad (might have still been in college) and in completely over my head! I had two things going for me:
1) the previous engineer was a genius, and the AM control room was quiet, so I studied what he did, and adopted a telescoped shields solution that copied his approach. And it worked!
2) while a radio station needs to be quiet, it doesn't need to be recording studio quiet, so my goals were somewhat less demanding. You had your hands full!
fireberdBTW, ex W5DVO, K3FFZ, ZD8JES
Why "ex"