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2017/06/04 06:23:40
Vastman
67 yrs old, just moved to Idaho and beginning studio upgrades after selling farm in bay area.  My eyesight is poor and after using a couple 28/32 inch monitor/TV for years, I'd like to upgrade to a single large screen. Will also be doing video work next year and the other monitors still have uses.  I know I'll have to upgrade my graphics card and am fine with that.
 
Haven't found much here or at VI Control but google brings up some positive discussion on the Cubase forum where several folks are using large TVs even with what they call Cubase's scaling issues.
 
I plan on buying a high quality Samsung or lg C7 in the $2-3500 range (Costco has several and warrenty/exchange is stellar) and am hoping others have explored this with Sonar.
2017/06/04 09:03:48
qhtrvw425
I use 40 inches 4K TV with the Samsung PLS panel. It works properly in Sonar platinum, and also Cubase 9. You can use HiDPI Setting to zoom the DAW, and Sonar also works under the HiDPI. Cubase 9 doesn't support HiDPI, so buttons and images are blurred, but it works anyway.
One more, RGBW pixel TV isn't suitable for PC. Check pixel pattern, and buy RGB :)
2017/06/05 01:47:37
Vastman
Thanks! I have seen a lot of talk about the 40ish inchers but little about the 55 to 65 inchers, which is what I'm considering, especially as they now come with hdmi2. Is there a reason why? 
2017/06/05 03:00:17
qhtrvw425
They are 4K TV, so PC recognize them just '4K displays' regardless of the panel size.
HDMI 2.0 supports the 4K resolution with 60Hz, which is typical monitor's refresh rates. So you must consider the graphic cards that have HDMI 2.0 ports. Geforce gtx9XX, 10XX, Radeon rx4XX, 5XX have HDMI 2.0, but there are some differences between vendors.
2017/06/05 03:10:19
scook
I wonder about monitor placement
2017/06/05 05:22:38
mettelus
That price range seems a little on the high side to me. I got a 55" 4K Smart LG TV in the January time frame and was less than $700. I didn't get too zealous with research, but the "smart" part of it seemed to raise cost a lot (aside from the LED, plasma, etc. of the display itself). In hind sight I would have ditched the "smart" on the TV completely (as well as upscaling), since a Blu-Ray player can do both better than the TV can. If you are going to be hardwired to a graphics card, the same would apply.
 
Others would have to comment on the resolution, since I have seen some reports that "other than 100%" resolution in Windows can still cause issues. But even at 100%, this will still yield significant more real-estate on a bigger area.
 
scook's placement comment is something also to seriously consider. The "legs" for a typical TV are not overly sturdy, so the TV could be tipped over by accident fairly easily. Wall-mounts are a better choice for survive-ability, but the also go up in price fairly quickly with more motion enabled, require a very rigid structure to anchor too, and pretty much make the TV stuck in one spot (plus mounting will require 2 people if chosen).
 
As far as viewing distance, I think you can get to within 3 feet or so of mine and still not get "pixilation" (check that out in person at a store before purchase), but the actual weight of the unit may be the part you want to take into consideration most (check that unit weight, and realize it is very awkward to manage solo).
 
2017/06/05 05:35:00
Vastman
scook
I wonder about monitor placement


Hi, Scook!  I know this has been mentioned as an issue before.

I Just ordered a pair of Genelec 8340A monitors to replace my KRKs and plan on wall mounting the big screen above and behind my current monitors, angled down a bit... I've seen this done in some studio photos.  The bigger screen should result in larger fonts/images so being several feet behind everything will work.  I assume the OLED clarity of the newest  LG C7P or Samsung's which is stunning, would scale well enough in the larger screen to b useable. Mounting them shouldn't be a problem as the LG is. 1.8" thick and only weighs 50 lbs.  These screens have amazing color depth and clarity.
 
However the dirth of info leaves me flying a bit blind, DAW wise.  I'm not a technweeny by any means.  Yet I finally have funds from selling the farm to finally splurge on better visual tools and would love to move Sonar onto a large screen and am trying to get a sense of when "big" becomes too big and avoid returning things...
2017/06/05 07:59:50
Vastman
mettelus
That price range seems a little on the high side to me. I got a 55" 4K Smart LG TV in the January time frame and was less than $700. I didn't get too zealous with research, but the "smart" part of it seemed to raise cost a lot (aside from the LED, plasma, etc. of the display itself). In hind sight I would have ditched the "smart" on the TV completely (as well as upscaling), since a Blu-Ray player can do both better than the TV can. If you are going to be hardwired to a graphics card, the same would apply.
 
Others would have to comment on the resolution, since I have seen some reports that "other than 100%" resolution in Windows can still cause issues. But even at 100%, this will still yield significant more real-estate on a bigger area.
 
scook's placement comment is something also to seriously consider. The "legs" for a typical TV are not overly sturdy, so the TV could be tipped over by accident fairly easily. Wall-mounts are a better choice for survive-ability, but the also go up in price fairly quickly with more motion enabled, require a very rigid structure to anchor too, and pretty much make the TV stuck in one spot (plus mounting will require 2 people if chosen).
 
As far as viewing distance, I think you can get to within 3 feet or so of mine and still not get "pixilation" (check that out in person at a store before purchase), but the actual weight of the unit may be the part you want to take into consideration most (check that unit weight, and realize it is very awkward to manage solo).
 
 
Yo! Mettelus....
So you are using the 55 inch with Sonar??? How does it work and how are YOU using it? 
Tilt/motion wall mounts are only 125 for good ones and I'll use them.  Need to rise above the current monitors!
I'll be at least 4 to maybe 6 feet back as I'll have my desk, keyboards/other dohickys separating.  I'll be stuck in a decent size bedroom for awhile but a huge  cathedral walled addition call "the sunroom" (currently full of mom's stuff that needs donating) is my final destination down the road for full recording/video production/green screening.
 
The pricey displays are a luxury but have full hdmi2, and the OLED's are just amazing, they have loads of inputs/outputs, can be viewed off angle, and don't blur at edges when you are close... and they'll b useful for video production if I'm every to effectively address climate change via youtube.  Finally, and believe it or not, it would be a dream come true, watching "the expanse" on such a screen. Yea, I'm that much of a space cowboy!  
 
Then again, if you're getting great results with yours, maybe I'll rethink the top of the line and get a Virus TI2 or the new Arturia MatrixBrute, both of which I'm drooling over!  In my 66 years I've never had discretionary funds like this and have a modest life... VERY frugal... so it's not really about the money for a change... but don't wanna be stupid either.
 




2017/06/05 14:30:32
batsbrew
i recently purchased a 49" 4K tv for a small living room,
works great.....
unless you are sitting more than 10' away,
anything larger is too much.
2017/06/05 16:05:37
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