Hey Group--
 
I have to admit, I'm a little skeptical there is a solution to my problem, which is why I've waited this long to post this to the forum, but I am constantly amazed at the wealth of knowledge and experience from this forum, so here it goes.
 
I organize my VST fx plug-ins very nicely by category, and hide any demo versions of anything that I don't own/use. I guess I'm a little bit of a neat freak when it comes to that, BUT, (and it's a big butt), it makes it very convenient when I'm adding an effect to a track to be able to browse by category, etc.
 
Now, along comes a new UAD Powered Plugin update. After the update, I scan my vst's and boom. My nice organized plugin list is now a mess with the entire plethora of demo's that UAD has to offer that I don't own, and I have to manually go through each one to hide them all over again--after every update!
 
It's gotten to the point that if there is no bug fix or performance improvement--just new demos, I no longer update my UAD when a new version comes out.
 
Now, has anyone solved this issue, or is my best solution just not update the UAD plug-ins?
 
Thanks!!
 
Stephen

razor
I no longer update my UAD when a new version comes out. 

 
+1 for me.

Create your own custom plugin layout.
 
Dan
 

dcumpian
Create your own custom plugin layout.
 
Dan
 

+1  It's the only way.  IK Multimedia has also taken on the UAD model.  Real PITA.
 
Which is why I've always done my own plugin menu and the updates change nothing.  It's a good amount of work up-front, but you can save time by starting out with one of Cake's templates, which will have some already assigned (I like the layout by "kind" - I think - that lists, e.g., "Equalizers," "Compressors," etc.).  But it's one and done.  Save the plugin menu layout file somewhere, and when the time comes for a new install, just import it and you're good to go.  Just remember to go into plugin manager and assign any new plugins to the proper folder, and save, of course, so your layout (and layout file) is always up-to-date.
 
Personally I can't imagine not having my own plugin menu layout - I've never done it any other way.  I just thought "everyone was doing it," as they say... 

Hey Guys--
 
I must be missing something because I have created my own plugin layout. I should have been more clear that's what I'm referring to.
 
I'm not in front of my DAW now, but either when I add a plugin to a track or a bus, when I go to UAD Powered Plugins is when I have the problem.
 
Now, here might be my problem now that I'm thinking more about it. Please let me know if this is it. When I open a project in SPLAT, do I need to then go up to my plugin manager and choose my custom plugin layout each time?  It seems like the problem is that I don't. I choose it once and then when I save the project I'm expecting that same plugin layout to be loaded next time I load the project.
 
Thoughts?

That may be the issue, if I understand correctly.  You definitely do NOT need to open the plugin manager screen (where you create custom menus) each time, but when you go to insert a plugin and the menu that comes up is not yours (i.e., it's a Sonar default or preset), you have to stay in the same menu, but back up one level, to "Preset Menu Selection" (or something), find yours in the list (which will include Sonar's presets as well as yours) and select yours.  It's easier than I'm explaining, but your really just backing up one step from whatever menu happens to be there, going to "Plugin Menu Selection," choosing your menu, then going back to "Insert Plugin," and you will see your menu.
 
I'm not in front of my music PC either, but this clicking/choosing is all taking place from within the "Insert Plugin" (the plus-mark (+) menu in plugin bin) menu.  No new windows or settings.
 
As to the why, got me.  Sometimes my menu is there, sometimes I have to quickly click it over to my menu, a two-second process. 
 
If this is clear as mud, let me know and I'll do better when I can get in front of Sonar.

Treefight
That may be the issue, if I understand correctly.  You definitely do NOT need to open the plugin manager screen (where you create custom menus) each time, but when you go to insert a plugin and the menu that comes up is not yours (i.e., it's a Sonar default or preset), you have to stay in the same menu, but back up one level, to "Preset Menu Selection" (or something), find yours in the list (which will include Sonar's presets as well as yours) and select yours.  It's easier than I'm explaining, but your really just backing up one step from whatever menu happens to be there, going to "Plugin Menu Selection," choosing your menu, then going back to "Insert Plugin," and you will see your menu.
 
I'm not in front of my music PC either, but this clicking/choosing is all taking place from within the "Insert Plugin" (the plus-mark (+) menu in plugin bin) menu.  No new windows or settings.
 
As to the why, got me.  Sometimes my menu is there, sometimes I have to quickly click it over to my menu, a two-second process. 
 
If this is clear as mud, let me know and I'll do better when I can get in front of Sonar.

Ok, I'll check again next time I'm in session. It does seem kind of stinky that I have to choose my custom plugin layout each time. I mean, once I save the project, it should save which layout I want - IMO.
 
Thanks!

What I have done is manually create a NEW UAD plug in library on my hard drive.  Use this copied library to scan into SPLAT.... when new UAD versions come out, I install them in the original UAD libraries and then just copy this new UAD library into my existing copy of the UAD plugins (which are mapped to SPLAT). And remember to do a RESCAN of your plugs in SPLAT after you copy the UAD plugs into this NEW UAD plug-in library.
 
Yes, you do wind up having two copies of the UAD plugs on your system but this way allows one to maintain the custom plugin scheme of your SPLAT sessions with ease.
 
Obviously, you want to remove the original path of UAD plugins from the VST scan folders.
 
Let me know if I am understanding your opportunity incorrectly?

jimkleban
What I have done is manually create a NEW UAD plug in library on my hard drive.  Use this copied library to scan into SPLAT.... when new UAD versions come out, I install them in the original UAD libraries and then just copy this new UAD library into my existing copy of the UAD plugins (which are mapped to SPLAT). And remember to do a RESCAN of your plugs in SPLAT after you copy the UAD plugs into this NEW UAD plug-in library.
 
Yes, you do wind up having two copies of the UAD plugs on your system but this way allows one to maintain the custom plugin scheme of your SPLAT sessions with ease.
 
Obviously, you want to remove the original path of UAD plugins from the VST scan folders.
 
Let me know if I am understanding your opportunity incorrectly?

+1.1 
 
I've been doing it this way for years. Just another one of those simple work arounds.
 
Makes demoing a new plug just a little extra work, but I rarely demo stuff from them these days. Last demo was of the WTB thingy and I did not buy it. I might if it goes on sale for $49.