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  • Difference between a Mix bus and a Master bus?
2017/08/10 19:13:19
Tropical Cowboy
Hi, I'm going over the manual for the Waves MixDown.  It states: The CLA MixDown...  can be inserted on any buss, but it shines most brightly when inserted between the buss master and the mix master.  What's the difference between the buss master and the mix master?  I'm confused.  Is the Mix Master the main Master on a project.  If so, what is the Buss master?
 
Thanks
2017/08/10 19:56:30
mmarton
I think the buss master would be a group master (all keys to one group buss, for example) and the mix master would be the main, master, or 2 buss.
2017/08/10 20:27:23
highlandermak
So think of the mix bus as your subs that grouped specific instruments. Example I have individual buses for drums, guitars, bass, keys, and vocals. These buses all go into my master bus. If what your saying about CLA is true then you would add it to the sub/mix buses prior to going into your master bus. The advantage is you can sculpt the sound specifically for the instrument bus you created giving it's own distinct place in the mix.
2017/08/11 04:45:01
Tropical Cowboy
Thanks for the info!
2017/08/11 05:52:13
Sanderxpander
Judging from the plugin UI and the description I would put it on the master bus, before your final limiter.
2017/08/12 01:57:20
cparmerlee
At the risk of sounding like a jerk, "buss" is an archaic term for a kiss.  I don't think Sonar has a computer-kissing feature, so each of the buses in Sonar is a bus.
 
And to make matters worse, the plural of bus can be either buses or busses, although the former is preferred.
 
Normally I wouldn't waste anybody's time on this.  But I think it is kind of funny to read a post that talks about kissing software.  I know the legendary sound engineers all have many special tricks, but kissing the DAW is probably not going to do anything.
2017/08/12 09:13:24
John
I like to use the term buss in order to differentiate it from a city bus. I believe the buss term comes from an electrical buss. Where the term bus comes from the term omnibus meaning a conveyance for many people. I could be wrong though. I never heard buss used as a word for kiss.  I looked it up and in the online dictionary you are correct. However, that was not what I recall from past definitions. Interesting though.  
2017/08/12 12:49:03
cparmerlee
There is no such thing as an "electrical buss" unless you are talking about kissing a live wire, which is not recommended.  The ONLY meaning of buss is to kiss.  Electrical and computer designers adopted the metaphor "bus" because those devices deliver electricity / messages like a bus.
 
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/buss
 
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/buss
2017/08/12 16:24:22
John
cparmerlee
There is no such thing as an "electrical buss" unless you are talking about kissing a live wire, which is not recommended.  The ONLY meaning of buss is to kiss.  Electrical and computer designers adopted the metaphor "bus" because those devices deliver electricity / messages like a bus.
 
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/buss
 
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/buss


I take you didn't read my entire post. 
2017/08/12 16:45:46
ccm
John
I like to use the term buss in order to differentiate it from a city bus.

Many moons ago Nancy Allen @ LBCC gave me a simple explanation that I always remembered - "think of it as an actual bus, moving signals from one place to another."
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