2015/11/15 15:28:47
Soundwise
I have Rapture Pro installed on my system. I can't find Gibson LP Standard and Gibson Thunderbird Bass within RPro interface. Multisamples are installed as they should, but there are no programs for these samples neither on HDD (I used Windows "Search" utility) nor within RPro. I looked in ProgramData and Program Files directories too. Nothing.
 

 
Maybe these programs hide behind some artistically elaborated names like "Fancy Grinder" or "You bet your Axe"?
 
Please, help!
2015/11/15 16:22:36
scook
Here are a few of the patches containing content from "52 - Gibson LP Standard"
Atmospheric > Dark Angelic
Atmospheric > Inharmonichron
Bass Guitars > Gibson LFO Bass Synth
Bass Guitars > Moving Bass Synth JAL
Electric Guitars > 12 String Bridge
Electric Guitars > 12 String Chorus Bridge
Electric Guitars > 12 String Chorus N+B
Electric Guitars > 12 String N+B GLPS
Electric Guitars > 12 String Out of Phase GLPS
Electric Guitars > Basic N+B GLPS


And a few of containing "54 - Gibson Thunderbird Bass"
Bass Guitars > Bass Industrial JAL
Bass Guitars > Gibson LFO Bass Synth
Bass Guitars > MW Wha Bass
Bass Synth > Moving Bass SynJAL
Electric Guitars > 5ths N+B
Electric Guitars > DrivenToMadness
Electric Guitars > Mute Bridge+MW Slapback



2015/11/15 16:42:01
Soundwise
Thanks, Steve! I've seen that. Was hoping there are some real patches for Gibson LP Standard and Gibson Thunderbird Bass.  Too bad that sound designers don't play real instruments.
2015/12/05 20:07:20
Anderton
Soundwise
Was hoping there are some real patches for Gibson LP Standard and Gibson Thunderbird Bass.  Too bad that sound designers don't play real instruments.



Patience...I did a complete set of samples for the Les Paul Standard, and let Cakewalk use them in other instruments. However, I'm also doing an Expansion Pack for the Les Paul Standard (with 50 presets) and also for the Gibson Midtown, which is a semi-hollow body with a very different character. And there are a few more on the way...but they take time. Just programming the Instrument macros takes a lot of work.
 
Also, you'll be glad to hear that there will be an update to the EB5 expansion pack with several tweaks. The files are now FLAC instead of WAV so the files take up less memory and load faster, and also, some intelligent person on the forum hipped me to the fact that some of the lowest notes had tuning issues ...those are all fixed now too. Hint: The only tuners I've found that are accurate for the really low strings are the one in Waves' GTR and the Peterson Strobosoft. The tuners in Amplitube and Guitar Rig can't even always agree whether a string is sharp or flat.
 
There are rumors the new EB5 files and their SFZs will be made available for free to existing EB5 Expansion Pack owners, however the Rapture Pro-specific V2.0 will be a separate product.
2015/12/06 03:32:26
Soundwise
Anderton
I'm also doing an Expansion Pack for the Les Paul Standard (with 50 presets) and also for the Gibson Midtown, which is a semi-hollow body with a very different character. And there are a few more on the way...but they take time. Just programming the Instrument macros takes a lot of work.
Also, you'll be glad to hear that there will be an update to the EB5 expansion pack with several tweaks. The files are now FLAC instead of WAV so the files take up less memory and load faster, and also, some intelligent person on the forum hipped me to the fact that some of the lowest notes had tuning issues ...those are all fixed now too.

That's a great news! I wish I knew how to program macros fo RPro. Got lots of ideas on creating new instruments from existing SFZs but couldn't find a way around RPro's macros so far.
 
 
 
Anderton
Hint: The only tuners I've found that are accurate for the really low strings are the one in Waves' GTR and the Peterson Strobosoft. The tuners in Amplitube and Guitar Rig can't even always agree whether a string is sharp or flat.

 
Well, I got Waves' GTR Solo based upon a hint from a digital audio guru. It rocks!
 
Anderton
There are rumors the new EB5 files and their SFZs will be made available for free to existing EB5 Expansion Pack owners, however the Rapture Pro-specific V2.0 will be a separate product.




I wonder, what's the key difference between upcoming EB5 update and v2.0 for RPro?
2015/12/06 11:19:20
Anderton
Soundwise
That's a great news! I wish I knew how to program macros fo RPro. Got lots of ideas on creating new instruments from existing SFZs but couldn't find a way around RPro's macros so far.[/quotes]
 
Sound like fodder for Friday's Tip of the Week. It's very much like working with FX Chains so if you learn one, you've pretty much learned the other. If you haven't created any FX Chains, you might want to check out the tip on creating the "Lifter," which goes through the FX Chain construction process
 
Anderton
There are rumors the new EB5 files and their SFZs will be made available for free to existing EB5 Expansion Pack owners, however the Rapture Pro-specific V2.0 will be a separate product.




I wonder, what's the key difference between upcoming EB5 update and v2.0 for RPro?



V2.0, in addition to including the updated files, makes extensive use of the Instruments page. For example there's a knob that introduces what I call "touch wah" where the filtering changes subtly as you play different notes. There are also controls to introduce a sub-octave and upper-octave signal. The sub-octave gives a very synthy sound, and the upper octave makes any of the basses into an 8-string bass...that sort of thing. 
2015/12/06 15:44:20
Soundwise
Anderton
 
Sound like fodder for Friday's Tip of the Week.

Yes, pretty please!
 
Anderton
V2.0, in addition to including the updated files, makes extensive use of the Instruments page. For example there's a knob that introduces what I call "touch wah" where the filtering changes subtly as you play different notes. There are also controls to introduce a sub-octave and upper-octave signal. The sub-octave gives a very synthy sound, and the upper octave makes any of the basses into an 8-string bass...that sort of thing. 

I see. Any macro to morph between different strings? Is it possible at all to use macros to morph between different elements?
2015/12/06 19:35:40
Anderton
Soundwise
I see. Any macro to morph between different strings?

 
If you mean switch to different strings when playing to trigger the same notes on different strings, that's not really what macros are all about - they connect modulation sources and destinations. There is key switching and velocity switching, but what that won't do is randomized or round-robin switching, i.e., you can play the exact same note with the exact same velocity and trigger a different sample. There probably is a way to do that with multiple instances of Rapture Pro, but figuring it out would likely make my head explode.
 
However, I tend to use the synthesis elements to add variety. For example, instead of switching among samples with different velocities - which often sounds "fake" to me - I prefer to sample a string that's hit fairly hard, and then tie velocity to filter cutoff so that hitting the key harder makes for a brighter sound. I also tie it inversely to sample start time, so hard-hit notes catch more of the sample's beginning and softer notes begin further into the sample to reduce the pick or finger hit. Because these are nice, linear functions instead of switching, they sound more natural to me. 
 
Then again when I want to play bass, I play bass   Because I also double on keyboards, I want a keyboard bass to react more like a cross between the sonically organic vibe of a real bass, and a playing style that's more congruent with keyboards. On my new album, most of the parts are keyboard bass as they complement the "real" drums, guitars, and vocals well. 
 
Is it possible at all to use macros to morph between different elements?

 
Yes, you can crossfade between different elements although the Vector mixer feature sounds more like what you want. I also do wave sequencing with Rapture Pro, i.e., audio files trigger sequentially and crossfade into one another to produce a continually evolving timbre. 
 
2015/12/06 19:44:47
Anderton
Soundwise
Anderton
 
Sound like fodder for Friday's Tip of the Week.

Yes, pretty please!



Okay...I do take requests, and I'll be here all week. 
 
Here's some homework to keep you busy until then:
 
How to Use Matrix Modulation with Keyboards (even gives an example with Rapture)
Create More Expressive Synthesizer Parts (touches a bit on matrix modulation)
2015/12/07 03:57:47
Soundwise
Anderton
If you mean switch to different strings when playing to trigger the same notes on different strings, that's not really what macros are all about - they connect modulation sources and destinations.

That can be useful to simulate different dynamic articulations. Looking forward to learn more on this subject.
 
Anderton
There is key switching and velocity switching, but what that won't do is randomized or round-robin switching,

 
There are ways to simulate RR switching. I'm going to screencap a video on this. Where can I read about key switching in RPro?
 
Anderton 
I also do wave sequencing with Rapture Pro, i.e., audio files trigger sequentially and crossfade into one another to produce a continually evolving timbre. 

That sounds terrific, but I have no clue on what you are talking about. Can you elaborate, please?
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