2018/05/05 02:39:11
JohnKenn
Guys,
 
Another long long long post.
 
I’ve been involved in an offbeat project for about a month, donating service to a local church. I don’t believe in the basic premise, or am at best a skeptic, but volunteered whatever skills to make it real for the elect. Trying to keep an open mind. One of the greatest gifts in my life is to realize how dumb and clueless I am. My involvement was to help provide the math and come up with a presentation for the church as per their needs.
 
The preacher came by yesterday and said the congregation was rolling in the aisles, speaking in tongues, levitating off the floor, going into trances, getting saved, etc, etc. My efforts had gone where no vegetarian has gone before. His advice, before I burn in hell with the Pope, I need to get the results posted on the music forums. Laughed this all off, but woke up this morning and realized that I had at least refined the system to a degree which is not available anywhere else, far as I can tell (self pat on the back). Everything I can find on the web is in gross error. I done fixed it and made it easier by making the target keys more sane, like not playing in F#, G#, A#, whatever. A local church nearby smelled the brimstone and didn’t want to be left behind. They are now trying to get the choir and musicians washed in the blood by adopting this process. Donations are at stake.
 
Premise which maybe many of you are aware of is the hidden Solfeggio frequencies. Had to read books and get up to speed on this to help out the pack of heathens, but the claims are a rich romp thru conspiracy theories second only to the flat earth stuff. Supposedly, John Lennon did a Solfeggio shift in Imagine. Target to spread universal peace thru sacred sound vibrations. Supposedly, Paul McCartney was advised on his comeback that he would only be successful if he shifted away from the A 440 reference to the Holy Tones.
 
Google Solfeggio and you will see what the excitement is all about. Used heavily in new age chiropractic techniques with tuning forks over the vital centers to purify the “chakras”. No physical contact needed since it is so intense and healing so complete. Debate about which set of forks is better, but you can purchase keys to the kingdom for less than a hundred dollars. Even includes a plush carrying bag if you purchase wisely..
 
Anyway, I’ve posted a link to a zip download of a couple files. One a Word doc explaining the basics, and the second a spread sheet on how to tune a hardware or virtual synth to the Holy Tones. This is way more accurate than anything out there. Word doc has a real good trick how to tune a guitar more precise than the ear can hear using a floor fuzz box.
 
https://ufile.io/uyn6d
 
As per the chart, virtual synth tuning by pitch wheel is way more precise than Cent tuning on the hardware. Uses the Reaper free plugins if you are experimenting with this. Advantage is that cent tuning has a hundred increments per semitone. ReaControlMidi has over 4000 increments for the same range. Way more precise if you believe in any of the claims. Works well in Cakewalk. Download for free here.
 
https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/
 
What I’d appreciate from you guys is a second verification from anyone hard on into this concept. Think I got it nailed down, but if you find errors, please let me know. If I forked up in any of this, personal Salvation is compromised for the whole damned congregation. Wouldn’t want this in my karmic debt if I screwed up.
 
John
2018/05/05 23:34:31
Jyotishvarii
Okay this is of interest  In my former practice the use of the Solfeggio scale was a part of my work  It was not that I believed in it but my clients believed in it so I had to have the tools on board  I went with the program and purchased the finest tuning forks available  I had a technician check them every year for pinpoint accuracy Any scratches any bending any corrosion could cause a drift They have maintained perfect pitch for 20 years of hard use
 
I am puzzled by your statement that trying to zero in on the Solfeggios is plagued by gross error  My tuning forks are as close as it gets and there is no error We have long been able to accurately reproduce the 9 frequencies  What is the problem
 
I downloaded your charts and it is Greek to me  I still have an interest in modern technology rebirthing ancient wisdom  I was curious to play with your ReaControlMidi software which I presume is some kind of precise tone generator  The program installed okay but I cant find any way to open it  What do I have to do
 
Your word document also gives reference to a 432 shift What is the relation to this tuning and the Solfeggio tones
2018/05/06 18:56:51
JohnKenn
Jyoti,
 
Sorry if I was vague. I have no issue with our being able to generate the Holy Tones, or with your tuning forks which are likely quite precise. I have several digital tone generators that can produce the frequencies with precision.
 
The problem comes up when we try to play the tones on current hardware synthesizers or stringed instruments. The available references are in gross error in my opinion, close but not close enough if the theory is to work, and some not even close. Like trying to measure the thickness of a hair with a yard stick. I tried to correct and simplify the numbers as best we can do currently, and add a few references to easier keys to play in.
 
The 432 reference I put in the miscellaneous section was at the request of the church. This became a major issue of "oops" when I discovered what was going on and shared it with the minister, who asked me to keep it to the two of us, and help put a spin on the mess for collective well being (just a little white lie). I don't think anyone from the churches will be reading this, so will revisit this with a few facts and figures and tell you what came down. Their fiasco does however help explain how the Solfeggio frequencies work their magic. I think the whole thing is a bunch of elephant kaka, but I do fully support their approach and widespread use, down to the excitement around the conspiracy theories. Will be back with "the rest of the story" when I dig back up the numbers to show where the problem is.
 
Regarding the ReaControlMidi utility, it is not a tone generator or a standalone program. It is a utility that can be used inside Cakewalk or Sonar to get a more refined tuning of a virtual synthesizer. It works on pitch wheel modification which has much more refined divisions than tunings based on cents or midi increments. I added these numbers on the chart because of the idea of getting as close as possible to the claim. It is nothing you probably need. Your tuning forks will work just fine.
 
John
2018/05/06 23:33:26
Jyotishvarii
Your clarification helps It was my misunderstanding
 
We are back in Atlanta for a few days and had a good trip back in a car on the ground No more friendly skies when I can avoid it I have about a week here which should give time to get my brain and lungs purged from the bleach and perfumes of the hotels and airplane cabin fumes Tomorrow night has the predicted beautiful lightning storms I love
 
About the Solfeggios you think that they are elephant kaka and off the record I agree with you Come to think of it since I am retired from my main practice there is no more need to be off the record The reason I delegated a hundred dollars to a set of tuning forks was that my clients were demanding that mode of intervention It was either keep them happy or they would go elsewhere It was easier and more economic secure to agree with them and go through the ritual rather than spend time trying to argue them out of their illusion I never promoted what I thought was false though The Solfeggio forks were never offered up front as an option
 
You have said you think it is fake but want the message spread and even the crazy conspiracy theories How does this compute if you are searching for truth and would want others to search for truth
 
John sometimes I lie awake at nights worrying about you
2018/05/07 03:01:10
JohnKenn
Jyoti,
 
Here is where it is from my perspective.
 
The Solfeggio frequencies are a non entity, off the deep end of anything rational or provable IMHO. Worthless from the standpoint of science and math on many levels. The 3-6-9 Pythagorean revelation and the extension of 10 finger based discovery of tones above and below the spectrum is only so much darkness taking ignorance into deeper pits of confusion. But if it floats your boat, all that matters. There are much better ways to tune up the “chakras” than some hovering tuning fork over a spinal node or a close approximation of a musical drone thru a guitar amp blasting the faithful into trance states.
 
I still will get empiric numbers so the rational amongst us can judge, but this is what went on with the church and what is spreading like wildfire. This is why I support fake news. Long live the distortion if it serves any degree of spiritual elevation or insight until we can get a few more genes expressed in in our primate structure. Long live the myth if our brothers and sisters believe and can get more in touch with inner space through the medium.
 
There was a young man who introduced the Solfeggios to the church, claiming he was the master of all knowledge regarding the hidden science. Cool, more power to the dude. The musicians were however having trouble with the constant retuning to get the holy frequencies so the benefits could be realized.
 
He did an in depth analysis before roll out and discovered that all the guitar retuning could be eliminated by retuning the synth to 432. This would allow access to all the Solfeggio frequencies once the strings were tuned to A 432 reference.
 
They did their thing and the results were only short of a miracle. Documented miracles. Incredible. There is plan now for a miracle revival tour, an album. Parent church organization has issued a blank check to make this real. Other local churches were blindsided by the chaos with mass defection to join the miracle congregation. 4 Square ministries has already contacted me to do a presentation to their choir.
 
Problem with this. The 432 retune required playing in multiple sharp keys to get all the Holy Tones, not friendly to a guitar banger with a three cord limit. The main guru dude was asked how to shift to something more friendly and he didn’t have a clue. This is where I was brought in to advise by the respected minister.
 
 
Roll out of 432 was beyond belief in the success and the miracles documented. 174 Hz to relieve pain witnessed the miracle of a man confined to a wheelchair with arthritis able to get up and walk for the first time in over 10 years. Pain gone.
 
Couples struggling with relationship problems, magically repaired and now they are in bliss when that frequency was droned.
 
Middle C, center of the heart blasted by the Holy Tones and the congregation elevated to the pinnacle of universal love (maybe except for the hindus and buddhists)
 
936 for the ultimate experience was met with visions of Jesus over the crowd and advanced spiritual trance states. Levitation was reported. The testimonies go on and on with the other frequencies.
 
Couple small problems I see as an outside heathen.
 
The young evangelist took a couple websites and misinterpreted everything. 432 reference had nothing to do with the Holy Tones. Middle C was an octave off the target of C 528. None of the Solfeggio frequencies even remotely intersected with what he instructed the church to do, but they believed miracles would happen, and they did.
 
This is why I support the myth. It is crap defective on the clinical side, but good things are happening for those that believe that good things will manifest, and they do with faith. Has nothing to do with science. That is all that matters for now.
 
John
2018/05/07 07:13:35
optimus
Um ... Did I miss a month?
2018/05/07 09:16:04
tobiaslindahl
I don't understand any of this, but rest asured, levitation and tounge speaking will happen no matter what frequencies or tones you play. The imagination of the religious are powerful so go ahead and just tell them you use magic notes and watch them all fly fly away while talking gobbledygook .... 
2018/05/07 16:34:35
Starise
Good Good Good.......Good vibrations?
2018/05/07 16:58:04
Wookiee
This is pushing the edges of the CoC regarding religious content.

Consequently I will lock it and remind you to be polite about all subjects irrespective of your personal position or opinion.

Thanks Wooks
2018/05/08 15:42:15
Wookiee
At the request of one of the contributors I have reviewed this thread again and have unlocked it.

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