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  • Editing Multi-Track Audio Drums for Timing using SONAR Platinum (p.2)
2017/08/07 15:59:29
Sanderxpander
Sylvan
I'm really into method three right now, it is the one I am currently using the most. I have shied away from any kind of stretching thus far as I cannot allow any artifacts to get through to my clients. I can experiment later when I have some down time with Melodyne, but with the three methods outlined in the videos, I already know there will not be any artifacts. I have Melodyne essential, is that sufficient?

I will report back my findings when I can play around with it. I often get a lot of blast beats with metal bands at my studio so I need to move quickly without artifacts. This is very important. With slicing and crossfading I know it will work. I am skeptical with any kind of stretching but will give or a spin later just to see.

I'm not entirely sure, you do need some kind of multi track ability, I think normally that only arrives with Studio but possibly ARA lets you do it with lighter versions? One project I loaded all WAVs in the standalone Melodyne Studio, for another, I stayed within Sonar.

It wasn't paid work, I just thought "if this is an easy fix and I don't need to repair lots of stuff I'll keep it, otherwise I'll stick with the original and call it a day". To my surprise, it worked really well. The time I did it in Sonar something went wrong the first try, I think I didn't have all notes selected or maybe some tracks weren't set to "percussion". After verifying I tried again and it worked great. Both times I chose the "auto" grid and didn't quantize to 100 percent.
2017/08/07 20:03:36
Zargg
Great videos, Charles! 
Learned a trick or two 
2017/08/08 16:09:31
MagicMike
Sylvan
MagicMike
Excellent videos thanks so much!
I've been messing with stretching transient markers across multi-track drums and whilst I'm able to correct timing issues, sometimes the phase relationships don't quite work out (especially on a multi mic'd kick drum).
I'll be using your techniques this weekend :-)


These methods if done correctly will absolutely keep all phase relationships.



Haven't looked at method 3 yet, but phase relationships have to be kept in my 13 mic drum setup.
Thanks.
2017/08/08 20:41:59
Sylvan
MagicMike
Sylvan
MagicMike
Excellent videos thanks so much!
I've been messing with stretching transient markers across multi-track drums and whilst I'm able to correct timing issues, sometimes the phase relationships don't quite work out (especially on a multi mic'd kick drum).
I'll be using your techniques this weekend :-)


These methods if done correctly will absolutely keep all phase relationships.



Haven't looked at method 3 yet, but phase relationships have to be kept in my 13 mic drum setup.
Thanks.


Yeah, I often have 14 track drums and these methods keeps everything in perfect phase, there is no altering of those relationships. That is why I do it this way as opposed to any type of stretching.
 
I will try the Melodyne way as mentioned earlier, but I can rest assured that these slicing methods will not alter phase relationships in any way shape or form which is why I trust them.
2017/08/08 21:45:12
Sanderxpander
Tbh I often align the snare mics with the hits on the overheads which is also "messing with the phase relationship" - I don't see any problem there as long as stuff doesn't go OUT of phase. When I tried, it didn't. I zoomed in on a few snares and toms and they were perfect.
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