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  • Cakewalk should take over driver development for Cakewalk branded hardware made by Roland
2015/08/09 19:10:38
ampfixer
When I got back into recording, I settled on Sonar and bought only hardware with the Cakewalk brand. I've been loyal Cakewalk but my hardware hasn't. I bought it all as a set so I would have the best recording experience possible. Was it the same for people that bought the VS-700 and Sonar 8.5? 
 
I would really like Cakewalk to step up and start making these orphaned Roland products useful again. There are some limitations that can't be avoided. My Cakewalk audio interface is USB 1.1 so it's actually obsolete. I gave it to a buddy so he can record garage jams. My A500 PRO is another story. Sonar is in constant development so I'm sure there's driver optimizations that could be done. Roland won't do it. I was lucky enough to get a Win 10 driver, but that's simply been updated to install under a different Win version. But the A500 PRO was only $300, no where near the money that the VS XXX users spent.
 
Come on boys, have a go at it. 
2015/08/09 20:54:30
BobF
Drivers are a completely different animal than applications.  IMO, you're suggesting something that would be quite expensive.
2015/08/09 21:13:58
ampfixer
More expensive than touch screen development?
2015/08/09 21:32:22
Doktor Avalanche
You are totally barking up the wrong tree. These are badged Roland products. Roland would have made the drivers.

You are lobbying the wrong people. If Roland will not support hardware you should ask them to release the code open source.

Btw nobody is forcing you at gunpoint to update to Windows 10. You gotta be crazy if you think Cakewalk are going to hire a load of developers to develop drivers from scratch, which would require considerable debugging of old drivers to work out how interface responds, (remember Roland has the code) for a product they didn't make, for free (I assume), just so you can upgrade to Windows 10.
2015/08/09 22:22:39
ampfixer
I have no idea what would be involved in doing this. It's just an idea and something that's really aimed more at the VS-700 users. Roland is so big that they don't care.
 
How complicated is a hardware driver compared to a plug in? I don't know, I don't have to know. It's just an idea, and if you want to stick your oar in, you're welcome to. Don't make it personal.
2015/08/09 22:48:29
Doktor Avalanche
It's all complex. Really friggin' complex.Any specific field of development requires a huge learning curve. Drivers is a field in itself, I would regard it as specialist, not only are you writing the driver, you are writing the firmware which is pretty low level stuff.

I'd just keep kicking Rolands arse myself. If every single VS700 user emailed, posted on facebook and rang them up they might realise it's just quicker to just develop the thing rather than respond to complaints.
2015/08/09 23:32:37
mettelus
Petitioning Roland for open source would probably be more effective, but not sure how receptive they would be to such. The A-X00 pros are already on the "no" list for Win 10. Open source would at least allow for folks with the know-how to update them.
2015/08/10 00:37:27
ampfixer
I think you're right that people like me need to put more pressure on Roland, but I doubt it would do any good. All hardware manufacturers seem to do this. I've got a couple of good lazer printers that HP orphaned when Win 7 came out. The printers were only 18 months old and I had to stop using them unless I stuck with XP. Those too were donated to friends that still use XP for email and social media.
 
It's a scam I tells ya.
2015/08/10 01:57:50
icontakt
mettelus
The A-X00 pros are already on the "no" list for Win 10. 

 
I see "A-PRO Driver Ver.1.0.3 for Windows 10" on my Roland account download page. Is this for us Japanese users only?
2015/08/10 04:11:23
BobF
ampfixer
More expensive than touch screen development?




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