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2017/07/25 01:44:19
space_cowboy
bapu
LA 610 MKII, RME Fireface UFX, Presonus FaderPort, Dual UAD-2 Quad cards (I consider these hardware, you may not), dbx 160A compressor, P-Solo preamp, Grace M101 preamp, dbx 266xs dual compressor/limiter/gate and my Alembic F2-B preamp.
 
Alesis e-drums with the Gen-16 cymbal system.
 
Mics: AEA R84 Ribbon Mic, 1980's AKG C414 B-ULS (Transformerless mod) & 1990's AKG SolidTube. And a few other stock Shure mics found in any studio.
 
The amps I have don't count because I never record from a real amp.


Dude
I had 2 UAD Quads.  Then I replaced my RMEs with UAD Apollo. I am now at 12 processors of UAD sweet sweet goodness.  
2017/07/25 04:53:43
AT
Of course, not having a hardware interface with analog pres and converters would leave you recording Cage's  4'33" over and over again. ;-)
2017/07/25 08:16:47
Kev999
Yes, I had assumed that audio interfaces would be excluded from the discussion (as would speakers, headphones, computers and midi keyboards).
2017/07/25 13:39:45
cparmerlee
AT
Of course, not having a hardware interface with analog pres and converters would leave you recording Cage's  4'33" over and over again. ;-)

Did he copyright that?
 
I wonder if I can copyright the sound of applause. Royalties every time anybody claps.
2017/07/25 14:30:47
Pragi
Wonna record and mix with more  hardware.
I´m already using the Golden Age Pre 73,mics like the
Sennheiser e 906 ,Se Electronics 220o a ,shure sm 57 aso,
a Lexicon mx 200 , guitars and amps .
Would like to get a decent stereo eq in the next 12 month.
2017/07/25 14:50:19
Cactus Music
interpolated
If I ever have the chance I want to get a good mixer for summing my mix to analogue before sending it back to the box again. Doesn't have to be SSL or anything, just a good sound.
 




 
This topic has been gone over and over in forums like Gear sluts... Bottom line there is no advantage UNLESS you do have a million dollar board.
 And like mentioned above you are better off spending the money on your front end. Get the sound your after FIRST. then record it. I am against making a half arsed recording and then spending weeks trying to make it sound good in the box.  
 
Big hardware fan here. I have a lot of my older stuff including mixers, synths and rack gear. I even have a Cassette player that hasn't been plugged in for 5 years but you never know! 
Speaking of front end I just ordered this Radial PZ Pre- for my acoustics It will be for both live shows and the studio. 

2017/07/25 21:02:42
gerard st. pierre
Hats off to you 'old school' guys !
 
I turned 54 this year and my ears don't like the vst's as much but my back and hernia love them....grin.
 
but....there are some superior vst's out there.......just sayin
 
2017/07/25 21:25:23
chuckebaby
I've gotten away from Guitar Sims and gone back to the old school approach (Micing a cab).
Been using a JCA 20 for the past few months as I can push it hard and not break the kitchen plates.
 
I do believe a summing mixer on the back 9 can help. Its always been about color, pre amps, EQ, compressors and their coloring. a summing mixer can do the same as long as its a decent one. Personally I run my mixes in to a Tascam Studio 8 Reel then feed it back for master. This has been working well for me and more importantly giving me a unique sound. Something that's hard to find now in this day and age with everyone using the same plug ins, Same workstations.
2017/07/26 06:23:26
Pragi
chuckebaby
I've gotten away from Guitar Sims and gone back to the old school approach (Micing a cab).
Been using a JCA 20 for the past few months as I can push it hard and not break the kitchen plates.
 
I do believe a summing mixer on the back 9 can help. Its always been about color, pre amps, EQ, compressors and their coloring. a summing mixer can do the same as long as its a decent one. Personally I run my mixes in to a Tascam Studio 8 Reel then feed it back for master. This has been working well for me and more importantly giving me a unique sound. Something that's hard to find now in this day and age with everyone using the same plug ins, Same workstations.


Good point , Chuck,
that´s what I´m going for - a unique sound.
For me the last months it´s about the guit and amp sound .
As you said- hard to get an own sound.
 
Can hear some pro ´s mentioning that the sound of a guit comes 
out of the fingers.
 
regards
2017/07/26 11:13:16
chuckebaby
Pragi
Can hear some pro ´s mentioning that the sound of a guit comes 
out of the fingers.
 
regards




You are right. the fingers have a lot to do with it, picking technique as well (Closer to the bridge/Closer to the neck). The toughest change for me was adjusting my ears to real amps again. After years of using Amp Sims, I found my ears had accepted a thinner sound with not as much meat. So when I went back to using real Amps again that bottom end meat seemed overwhelming to me. Personally I was having trouble with it.
 
Amps Sims are amazing and they have really come a long way since the old days (POD 2.0 :-).
And they are very convenient as far as neighbor love goes. But a real amp still sounds better than anything.
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