I know for a fact that you have gone deeper under the hood of Kinetic than I ever have, so there is not much direct help I can offer.

But remember Kinetic can save files as PTN which can be opened directly within Project5 (if you have it or it probably can be found somewhere at a real steal even though it is no longer being developed).  Project5 probably can handle more easily whatever Kinetic is failing to for you.

Otherwise, you may have to export the wave files from within Kinetic to avoid the 2 channels of roadblock that seems needless but immovable.

Best wishes on breaking through it!!!

seedoflife


I know for a fact that you have gone deeper under the hood of Kinetic than I ever have, so there is not much direct help I can offer.

But remember Kinetic can save files as PTN which can be opened directly within Project5 (if you have it or it probably can be found somewhere at a real steal even though it is no longer being developed).  Project5 probably can handle more easily whatever Kinetic is failing to for you.

Otherwise, you may have to export the wave files from within Kinetic to avoid the 2 channels of roadblock that seems needless but immovable.

Best wishes on breaking through it!!!

Thanks man...


I have Project5 and can use it as a workaround for exporting multitracks. Just really want to stay in Kinetic because of the song arranger which P5 doesn't have. Just trying to see if the Rewire stuff is broken on my end or Kinetic. 

T.

Chrisma


Ok so...I have continued to work with Kinetic and have a couple of things I need someone to test for me. 

1.) Rewire - I can only get to a 2 channel output (and yes I have it set to 16 under audio properties). No matter what I do it is ignoring the setting in audio properties. I have tried both on my desktop and laptop and get the same results when trying to Rewire into Sonar. 

2.) Midi in on Rewire -  when I'm have Kinetic rewired into Sonar I get have midi in even though Kinetic shows are rewire midi in driver.


BTW - Loving using BPM (beat programming and sampling) and Kinetic (sequencing and other VSTs) at the same time. If they were both one app that would be awesome.  

Somebody let me know whats up with these two issues. 
  

1) Yes, you only get two channels thru rewire.. its not a traditional rewire where you can get the full 16 tracks. I called Cakewalk on this about 2 years ago. But the beauty of it is you can switch back and forth between the two and PLUS you can bounce the rewire audio tracks to Sonar's tracks, so you can continually build up..
 
2)Designed to use a midi controller.. only open Midi slot..

Twitch

Chrisma


Ok so...I have continued to work with Kinetic and have a couple of things I need someone to test for me. 

1.) Rewire - I can only get to a 2 channel output (and yes I have it set to 16 under audio properties). No matter what I do it is ignoring the setting in audio properties. I have tried both on my desktop and laptop and get the same results when trying to Rewire into Sonar. 

2.) Midi in on Rewire -  when I'm have Kinetic rewired into Sonar I get have midi in even though Kinetic shows are rewire midi in driver.


BTW - Loving using BPM (beat programming and sampling) and Kinetic (sequencing and other VSTs) at the same time. If they were both one app that would be awesome.  

Somebody let me know whats up with these two issues. 
  

1) Yes, you only get two channels thru rewire.. its not a traditional rewire where you can get the full 16 tracks. I called Cakewalk on this about 2 years ago. But the beauty of it is you can switch back and forth between the two and PLUS you can bounce the rewire audio tracks to Sonar's tracks, so you can continually build up..
 
2)Designed to use a midi controller.. only open Midi slot..

Ok thanks Twitch.


Kinda odd the there is a setting for up to 17 channels of rewire and you only get 2. Gotta be a bug.  Also, your reply made me reread my post and I'm sorry I didn't realize I wasn't making sense. Duh! LOL!


What I meant was basically midi in to Kinetic when rewired in Sonar doesn't work. Or maybe I'm doing it wrong. Anyway can you test this for me. I can deal with only having two rewire channels from Kinetic but I really want to work in Sonar with Kinetic and BPM open at the sametime with them both is song mode. Since you have and understand all 3 apps you can see where I'm going with this can't you?


T. 

Midi into kinetic threw sonar?

What exactly are you trying to do? I understand the premise of using BPM and Kinetic along with sonar like you would the old skool way of using [midi sync] to have a drum machine sync to a sequencer. But, it sounds as if you're also trying to use kinetic as a sound module as well?

With a bit more clarity, I can do a more conclusive test.

kine321


Midi into kinetic threw sonar?

What exactly are you trying to do? I understand the premise of using BPM and Kinetic along with sonar like you would the old skool way of using [midi sync] to have a drum machine sync to a sequencer. But, it sounds as if you're also trying to use kinetic as a sound module as well?

With a bit more clarity, I can do a more conclusive test.

Thanks  Kine321.
 
Just trying to fully use Kinetic as a rewire synth in Sonar. I figured it out. For some reason the inserting Kinetic as "simple instrument" track would not transmit midi to Kinetic but using a midi source track and a synth audio track works fine.  I'm stoked!!!
 
T.
 
 
 

Just an FYI...I finally got rewire working correctly. Again its related to Sonar's Simple Instruments. I could not get all the rewire channels to show up in Sonar when inserting Kinetic as a Simple Instrument. What I have to do instead is when I insert it as a Rewire device  I only place a checkmark next to "Show Synth Properties" on the dialog box in . Then I can manually route any of the Kinetics (16 or 17) output channels to audio tracks. 

Enjoy!

T.