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  • How do I get a harsh vocal to sound warmer?
2018/10/22 11:16:51
revnice1
It's a slow love song and the female singer is sounding a brassy and harsh. I want Roberta Flack and I'm getting Liza Minnelli.
I've tried lifting the middle with a wide Q but it didn't make much difference, kinda went Shirley Bassey...
 
What can be done?
 
Thanks - rev
2018/10/22 12:27:54
dcumpian
There will only be so much you can do. Having said that, you'll want to use either a compressor and EQ combo, or a dynamic EQ to control the frequencies in her voice when she starts to sound brassy. The first time you do this it will take you some time to wrap your head around how this works. Search youtube for some examples.
 
Regards,
Dan
2018/10/22 12:30:24
wetdentist
iZotope has a new free plugin called Vocal Doubler that i have had success with for un-harshing some vocals, along with EQ & compression
2018/10/22 12:35:26
msmcleod
You could take a look at Antares Aspire EVO: https://www.antarestech.com/product/aspire-evo/
 
This has a function to increase or reduce rasp / breath etc.
 
Use the VST2 version of this though - the VST3 doesn't work well with CbB or Sonar.
2018/10/22 12:55:44
mettelus
I would suggest Melda's MCharacter, which is the only thing I know of to surgically modify harmonics in real time. An EQ is not capable of this precision, and you may be shocked by how much slight harmonic changes will affect the overall timbre. The teaser has a specific comment in it about "harsh/nasal" sound in a vocal.
 
If you have never run the MCharacter trial before, you could simply use the trial for your work now; but be sure to bake in the results so you will have that copy after the trial expires.
 
Edit: Forgot to mention, use MCharacter on the dry signal before any further processing to get the maximum benefit from it!
2018/10/22 15:19:28
kday
Try the Pro-Channel "Style Dial Effects" they come with the program and they have many options for making a vocal track much warmer. Start with the "Smoother" effect that warms up the vocal sounds and removes sibilance and harsh frequencies. That is a gem for vocals, sorta like a De Esser.
2018/10/22 15:45:35
eve_ripper
Maybe you should try some saturation plugins like Klanghelm IVGI or Softube and make some actions like accent on low frequencies to make it warm but without high frequencies? 
2018/10/22 16:02:32
stickman393
mettelus
I would suggest Melda's MCharacter, which is the only thing I know of to surgically modify harmonics in real time. 



That's really impressive. I watched the demo video all the way through. I think this will be the closest thing to a magic fix for OP's issue.
2018/10/22 16:26:34
revnice1
dcumpian: A dynamic EQ? How's that different to a regular EQ?
 
wetdentist: (great name for a band!) I have that doubler but I haven't installed it. I'll give it a look. 
 
mcleod: I'm too poor right now but I read about it and it sounds intriguing because some of the problem with the vocal is that she sang kinda hard, without the tenderness I'm looking for. Taking the breath factor out and playing with the rest could be the best solution.
Thanks!
2018/10/22 17:07:31
sock monkey

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