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2017/07/24 13:03:39
kennywtelejazz
This does not have to be so complicated folks 
 
If you already have SONAR , a guitar or two , an amp , some pedals and an assortment of plugs ..what else do you need ?
Why not have a little fun ?.Go make some music while you are trying to figure out a workflow that works best for you.
 
Not a shameless plug just an example of some stuff I do w my guitar while recording in the box  
Same Guitar on both clips , 2 different amp sims ...all done in the box using SONAR 
https://soundcloud.com/guitarist-kenny-wilson/snarky-puppy-twanger-central-98
https://soundcloud.com/guitarist-kenny-wilson/while-my-guitar-gently-speaks 
 
These clips might not sound like anything you may care to hear ....IMHO that is besides the point ..
For me to be happy while playing , I have to be able to feel and hear my tone as I'm playing it 
 
all the best,
 
Kenny
2017/07/24 13:39:21
almeister
You could try Re-amping too, dry recorded signal out of DAW to amp, record back in with mic but you need a re-amp box for that,
https://www.sweetwater.co...CaDv6N-QRoCr-sQAvD_BwE
 
just another suggestion in case no one has put that out there yet
2017/07/24 13:54:35
hockeyjx
almeister
You could try Re-amping too, dry recorded signal out of DAW to amp, record back in with mic but you need a re-amp box for that,
https://www.sweetwater.co...CaDv6N-QRoCr-sQAvD_BwE
 
just another suggestion in case no one has put that out there yet




That always just seemed WAY to clunky to me. I never did see the advantage of it.
2017/07/24 14:04:57
BobF
space_cowboy
The Amplitube package is great.  More versatile sounds than most of the other plug ins.  Revalver is good too and you can run VSTs from inside it.  That means my Sound Toys stuff is available, and it is excellent for delays, chorus, phasing....  And I like the TH 3 thing Sonar includes.  Guitar Rig sounds thin to me.  I had some Wave amp sim but never liked it.  Ditto on Vandal.  Never tried Studio Devil.  
 
I really love the Universal Audio amp sims, but you have to own a UA card or interface to run their plugins.  
 
One thing to think about... 6msec of latency is equivalent to standing about 6 feet from your amp.  You can shoot for lower latency, but I am not sure below 6 is buying you much.    




Yes, AT4 is really good.  I find any RTL under 10ms to be perfectly fine for real-time monitoring guitar tracks.
2017/07/24 14:41:42
almeister
hockeyjx
almeister
You could try Re-amping too, dry recorded signal out of DAW to amp, record back in with mic but you need a re-amp box for that,
https://www.sweetwater.co...CaDv6N-QRoCr-sQAvD_BwE
 
just another suggestion in case no one has put that out there yet




That always just seemed WAY to clunky to me. I never did see the advantage of it.



To each his own bro, just offering OP another option.
I own a re-amp box
I also use AT4 and TH3 but re-amping is a valid and often used option to get real amp sound after recording  di. Or to try different sounds from different amps. 
Some people like it and will take the extra steps necessary....some won't. Apparently, you won't, thanks for your input.
2017/07/24 15:41:58
Sanderxpander
Reamping can sound great but only if you have amps worth recording and mics worth using.
2017/07/24 16:30:41
kennywtelejazz
Reamping is certainly the ticket for sure . I've done it a few times at the last apt I called home .
The new place where I'm at now ...no can do ...
Yeah got the right amps , 66 Fender Vibroluxe Reverb, Old Marshall and some other assorted tube amps of various vintages and pedigree ..
In a small untreated space like where I'm currently at I suppose I would have to build a portable Isolation box just to do it right ...
As far as amp sims go they are basically a form of reamping inside the box .  
Once the amp sims are not engaged you still have the original dry guitar signal  unless you exported your guitar track and brought it back into SONAR as a rendered track with your guitars signal chain embedded ....
Even then , if one was smart they would have kept the original dry track they used for the amp sim 
I have often wondered what would happen if I ever scraped up enough coin to rent a Properly Equipped Recording Studio with a large selections of mics . I would love to  bring in tracking sessions I have done at home into a studio while having the luxury of  using my own amps .....
 
Kenny
2017/07/25 16:14:59
Anderton
FWIW I'm in the process of converting the TH2-based CA-X amps to TH3. Not sure when the updated versions will be finished, but they'll be available when they are.
2017/07/25 16:24:03
JohnEgan
Anderton
FWIW I'm in the process of converting the TH2-based CA-X amps to TH3. Not sure when the updated versions will be finished, but they'll be available when they are.



Excellent!
 
Cheers
 
2017/07/25 16:29:27
JohnEgan
almeister
You could try Re-amping too, dry recorded signal out of DAW to amp, record back in with mic but you need a re-amp box for that,
https://www.sweetwater.co...CaDv6N-QRoCr-sQAvD_BwE
 



Great, Ill have get one or something similar, asumme the dry recorded signal, could actually be the live guitar plugged in to AI (with input echo on).
 
Cheers 
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