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  • Waves Maxxvolume: Can you accomplish the same thing with standard SONAR plugs? (p.2)
2017/07/25 14:07:17
THambrecht
MavVolumen is a perfect tool if you work with dialogs, talks ... voice recordings in general.
It brings all dialogs to the same level.
With standard Sonar plugins you cannot do the same. MaxVolumen sounds natural and not compressed.
 
2017/07/25 14:12:13
interpolated
Just read the PDF for clarification.  You're probably right although it may be possible with some other 3rd party ones.
 
2017/07/25 14:28:51
cparmerlee
chuckebaby
The problem with MaxxVolume is there is no multiband compression. ... potentially make hiss, low end rumble more evident.



Points well taken.  I don't know that I'd want to deal with the extra complexity of a MB tool.
 
Just thinking out loud, maybe it would be good for tools like this to output their adjustments to a separate send so that you could pipe the adjustments into an EQ.  I guess you could do that if the tool had a mix function.  You could use a separate send into MaxxVolume, set its mix to 0 (only the changes), and then follow that with an EQ to knock out the rumble and hiss.
 
But it doesn't work that way, so I digress.
2017/07/25 15:06:17
chuckebaby
You have the right idea. that's what lead me to mention side chaining (for EQ).
But you know like I said, its still a great deal for this plug in and I used MV a lot back in the day and its still a good plug in.
2017/07/25 17:39:31
bitflipper
I don't know of any other plugin that's set up exactly like this one, certainly nothing bundled with SONAR.
 
However, the upward+downward compression technique itself is nothing new. It's just traditionally been done with two compressors or parallel compression. Any compressor that supports negative compression ratios can do upward compression. Unfortunately, none of SONAR's bundled compressors do this, AFAIK.
 
In practice it isn't done all that often, because unless your tracks are really clean it'll also bring up your noise floor. What's far more common is parallel compression, which is a form of upward compression that's less likely to hurt your SNR.
2017/07/25 19:16:16
cparmerlee
bitflipper
In practice it isn't done all that often, because unless your tracks are really clean it'll also bring up your noise floor.



It sounds like the dream plug would be to include advanced noise reduction such as with Izotope RX6, upward compression with multiple bands.  That's a lot of CPU to process all of that.
2017/07/25 20:50:49
glennstanton
there are a couple of FX depending on your version which may suffice including the compressor gate, the BT expander, etc http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Versions
 
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