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2009/05/02 09:58:08
Jon Bryson

ORIGINAL: Jon Bryson


ORIGINAL: jinga8

If you leave it where you know where it is (the desktop, perhaps), when you open the template and it says it can't find the file, you can browse to where it is and then choose to copy it to the project folder. Or yes, you can just put it in the project's audio folder (be it per project or a big general audio folder, however you have stuff set up...)


I must be missing something basic. I downloaded the file but don't get an option to browse to it. Added to the project folder as well but still not getting it.

Thanks Jonas, I can't believe how much I'm learning from this.

Jon


Or I could just load it into the RXP player - DOH!!
2009/05/02 13:49:04
g_randybrown
....the videos you mention in your info/Notes do a good job of explaining precisely what you are doing with the compression and routing....

I'm sorry, where are these videos? I see know reference to them in the JONAS_MIXING_TEMPLATE2.txt
Thanks,
Randy
2009/05/02 16:06:34
jsaras
The text is within the Sonar file itself. Look under the "File" menu and then "Info".
2009/05/02 17:26:19
Jonbouy
Jonas

I really wanted to thank you for this template and insight into your work flow. I can see that it is a really popular post and rightly so, there are some excellent presets for the Sonitus Eqs', FX reverbs etc. which are easy on the processor and sound great, not only that they give a good aiming point when setting up other plugs.

In fact there is so much stuff contained here that has fired my imagination that it would have taken pages and pages of words to explain to me.

This is a really inspiring and helpful donation to the community and is very much appreciated here.

Thank you again.
2009/05/02 17:48:13
g_randybrown

ORIGINAL: jsaras

The text is within the Sonar file itself. Look under the "File" menu and then "Info".

Sorry I don't get it , I only see author and copyright.
Is JA Mixing Template3.1.cwt even the right file to be looking at?

Thanks,
Randy
2009/05/02 17:57:35
Susan G
Hi Randy-

Not sure why you didn't see it when you expanded the cwb and loaded the cwp, but here's the File > Info:

JONAS’ MIXING TEMPLATE REV 3 - April 2009

My mixing template for Sonar 7 Producer Edition has been revised and expanded. This template uses only the included Sonar effects, with exception of CamelCrusher, a terrific free VST effect which can be downloaded at www.camelaudio.com.. This plug-in must be installed on your system to take full advantage of this template.

There are EQ and compressor settings on each individual track that should be saved as presets. I make no guarantee that these curves will work on any of your tracks! They are just my personal starting points.

The EQ curve on the master bus has dips in the frequency ranges that tend to be most problematic on the mixes I receive for mastering. Again, this curve is probably completely incorrect for your song, but it will cause you to listen to your mix with a different perspective.

I used the LP64 compressor on the master bus reluctantly as I didn't care for the VC64 on the master bus. I am essentially using it as a single-band compressor with a low-frequency side chain, i.e., the frequencies below 250 hz are not being compressed. 2-3 db of compression should be enough.

The meter on the master bus has been set for RMS. Your final mix output should be at around -20dB RMS.

A hint to the wise: when capturing individual tracks keep the PEAKS to no more than -6dB. Although it may seem counterintuitive, this will allow you to create cleaner and punchier mixes even if you choose to slam the mix with a limiter on the master bus later on. Trust me on this!

The various reverb sends can be used to create depth or width to individual instrument tracks. I think that you will find the Cakewalk FX Reverb to be surprisingly effectlve. They are different from the previous template.

The drum bus routing will likely create more questions than I can can answer, so I suggest watching this video on Two-Stage compression, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvHlx3XHpBA. In short, the "stage 1" compressor should be doing next to nothing during the quiet parts of the song, but working pretty hard during the loud part of the song. "Stage 2" should be set like you normally set your drum bus compression. 2-3 dB of compression on the loud parts should be about right. You can set up similar routing for a vocals.

I've also included a couple of "utilities". The steady strean of pink noise is used to help simulate the noisy conditions of being in a vehicle. This will help you set your relative levels correctly. Generally you'll want to have the vocal heard pretty clearly over the noise while the rest of the instruments are just buried underneath the noise. Try playing some commercially mixed tracks against the noise to get an idea of how they've set the levels.

The pink noise blasts through the RXP are used to help me dial in the correct reverb settings for a song. As the bursts will play quarter notes in the tempo of the song it will assist you in setting decay times and room sizes.

The MIDI track is a Cakewalk demonstration song called "Downtown". This is about as good as I can get the TTS-1 to sound. The vocal was done by a friend of mine, Michael Blaker. The original jingle (with different background music) never got used. Now he'll be immortalized forever!

Happy mixing!


-Susan
2009/05/02 18:03:03
jsaras
I just unzipped the file and it's entitled "JA_mixingtemplate2.cwb"
2009/05/02 18:14:18
g_randybrown
Well what the hell did I download?
I've got a JA Mixing Template3.1.cwt but not a cwb...and it came with a .txt file that is similar that states:

JONAS’ MIXING TEMPLATE V2

My mixing template for Sonar 5 Producer Edition has been revised and expanded. This template uses only the included effects with exception of CamelCrusher, a terrific free VST effect. This plug-ins must be installed on your system to take full advantage of this template.

There are EQ settings on each individual track that should be saved as presets. I make no guarantee that these curves will work on any of your tracks! They are just my personal starting points.

The EQ curve on the master bus has dips in the frequency ranges that tend to be most problematic on the mixes I receive for mastering. Again, this curve is probably completely incorrect for your song, but it will cause you to listen to your mix with a different perspective.

None of the compressors, including the one on the master bus, should be doing more than 3-4dB of gain reduction at the loudest part of the song.

The meter on the master bus has been set for RMS. Your final mix output should be at around -20dB RMS.

A hint to the wise: when capturing individual tracks keep the PEAKS to no more than -6dB. Although it may seem counterintuitive, this will allow you to create cleaner and punchier mixes even if you choose to slam the mix with a limiter on the master bus later on. Trust me on this!

The various reverb sends can be used to create depth or width to individual instrument tracks.

CamelCrusher is copyrighted by Camel Audio. For more info please on these and other fine products please visit www.voxengo.com and www.camelaudio.com.

Happy mixing!


I think I downloaded the last link from the first post....but that ain't it is it??!!!

EDIT: When I click on Susan's link I get The URL contained a malformed video ID
2009/05/02 18:23:24
jsaras
Hi Randy,

You have the previous incarnation of the template. You can find the download link to the new one in my signature.
2009/05/02 18:30:10
g_randybrown

This one??
http://tinyurl.com/3n6kj (free Sonar mixing template and Ozone mastering preset)



If so that's what I used which took me to FREE DOWNLOADS

and I chose: Jonas' Sonar mixing template

Am i just too damned stupid to live??!!!
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